A Different Type of Synch Problem

wnde1drs · Post by **wnde1drs** » Sat May 20, 2006 7:19 am

I have used VS since version 8. I have been using VS 9 for a few months and other than the usual crashes I experience everytime I use the program it still eventually got the job done.

Recently however, I came across a completely new problem that I haven't seen addressed here.

I make music videos using clips I rip off of DVD's. I always mute the sound of the video clips on the timeline and add an audio track. I have always ripped these clips with a Xvid codec. Divx codecs always gave me a green screen. I have found that the best quality I get in the smallest package is Xvid.

When using the same clips I have used before in VS I now have problems in several ways.

1. If I mute the video clip the clip appears to be in stop motion. When I switch to project mode this is even worse. Unmute everything seems fine.

2. After cutting the clips to fit the music I watch the playback from the beginning and the clips are hitting on the music in the right spots. But if I click on the 2nd clip or any clip thereafter the project is not hitting the spots on the music and they just get further away from the target the further down the timeline I click. They can get to be as much as 6 seconds off. I thought this just might be a lag in the preview window, but upon rendering it was the same. I have been making vids the same way for 2 years now and this is the first time I have come across this problem.

3. So I thought maybe it was my codecs, so I downloaded the latest codec versions. This didn't help. So I tried another approach. I rendered the clip as a wmv and tried that. Same problem as the avi. I then tried using a DV-avi and the same thing again. I have tried different codecs and everything I try gives me the same problem.

So I thought maybe VS became corrupted somehow. So I uninstalled using a method that Ulead provided and reinstalled. Didn't help. So I uninstalled and downloaded the new VS10. Still no good. In fact it crashed everytime I laid a clip onto the timeline. I would get a Dr Watson type box but if I didn't send a report I could keep working for a minute and I could save my work but eventually it would just close itself out.

So I did a complete harddrive reformat and made sure I upgraded my OS and BIOS and motherboard and graphics card. I installed the latest versions of the codecs and reinstalled VS9 as well as the update patch. This did not help either.

I have spent the last week scouring the internet and searching this board and I don't see the answer to this problem. I am at a complete loss as to how to fix this problem. Any help on this would be appreciated.

Post by **Ron P.** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:50 pm

Hi wnde1drs, welcome to the forums..

If you have been successful at this before now, I would consider it as "I got away with it" .

If you have read on the forums, DivX, Xvid are highley compressed formats, which are intended for viewing and distribution, not for editing. VS tends to have problems with editing these formats. While it can be done, it is not a reliable format to edit.

To borrow a quote from Steve (sjj1805), "Just because you walk on a tightrope, doesn't mean you are going to fall off". However I think you have just fallen off that tightrope.

If you are viewing the clips in VS, in the Preview window, then don't expect it to play smoothly. VS has enough problems doing this with complex clips in DV-AVI format. It has to throw everything together "on the fly". You are adding a "highley compressed" format to the mix, which furthers the problem VS will have.

Ron P.

wnde1drs · Post by **wnde1drs** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:00 am

vidoman wrote:Hi wnde1drs, welcome to the forums..

If you have been successful at this before now, I would consider it as "I got away with it" .

If you have read on the forums, DivX, Xvid are highley compressed formats, which are intended for viewing and distribution, not for editing. VS tends to have problems with editing these formats. While it can be done, it is not a reliable format to edit.

To borrow a quote from Steve (sjj1805), "Just because you walk on a tightrope, doesn't mean you are going to fall off". However I think you have just fallen off that tightrope.

If you are viewing the clips in VS, in the Preview window, then don't expect it to play smoothly. VS has enough problems doing this with complex clips in DV-AVI format. It has to throw everything together "on the fly". You are adding a "highley compressed" format to the mix, which furthers the problem VS will have.

Ron P.

Maybe you missed the part where I said I tried DV-avi clips as well as wmv. So maybe I was walking a tightrope, but when I fell off I tried something different.

And I had the exact same problem with DV-avi clips as I did with the complex Xvid clips. So, though I understand what you are saying, it doesn't really answer my question.

And it's not just a Preview Window issue. When I rendered the vid the problem was the same, and I rendered with DV-avi clips as well as wmv. So I think the problem is something besides the Xvid codec.