Burning DVD from Timeline in 10+

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat May 20, 2006 12:06 am

I have sad news...

My dear, dear Video Studio 10 Plus, TBYB has passed, expired, kaput, gone...

So I can't try the test again, sorry John.

Ron P.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Sat May 20, 2006 12:48 am

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:18 am

Here is the pie'ce de re'sistance: Curiosity got the better of me and I loaded a 20 minute high definition project where all the video clips are mpeg2 1440x1080i, @25000kbps and hit the Burn button. VS10+ preset the Burn properties to Mpeg2 720x480, frame based, 4:3, VBR 7000kbps, Dolby. Not bad. At least it's DVD compliant. However, the wrong aspect ratio would have ruined the DVD.

I adjusted the aspect ratio to 16:9 and the variable bit rate to 9800kbps (which produces sharper pictures and I know can be handled by my DVD player) and hit the Burn button. It started crunching with no errors and finished the temp video file in 63 minutes. A few minutes later, the DVD completed and I compared it's resolution to that of a video file that I had made earlier from the same project at DVD resolution. I can't see any difference!

MD,
I was thinking the same thing about a checkbox option to leave the video file intact rather then just deleting it after the burn because it would speed up the next burn, if you want to burn another DVD and/or assist in ex post facto diagnosis of a defective DVD burn.

Ron,
My condolences over the demise of your trial version. Thank you for your contribution.

The only things we haven't tried are the WMP files, mpeg4 clips, etc. I don't have any of these. Can somebody who has some step up and try a project with some of these in the timeline?

I wonder what would happen if I put a Divx high definition video file in the timeline...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:17 am

Just a thought.... (not a rant)

The current adopted workflow enables a user to view a completed and rendered edited video for final checking before progressing to the authoring stage. By missing this step out and burning from the timeline unless a user burns to a a Hard Drive folder and checks their work before making a DVD disc they are risking wasting a DVD disc.

Anyone like to add some views on this?

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:18 am

I agree, that the workflow of creating a video file allows one to examine the video for mistakes, and correcting them. This does reduce the possiblity of wasted discs.

I think that it would be nice if Ulead would at least put a warning prompt when you press the Create Disc, with a project in the timeline, asking if you are sure you want to burn a disc before creating a video file. The warning box could have the "Do not show this again" option like alot of other warnings, for those that don't want to be warned. With this, users would still have the option to burn a disc from the timeline, or create a video file first.

Ron P.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:06 pm

Had another good burn from timeline this morning.

I found the temporary video file - it is located in
Documents and Settings\<user name>\My Documents\Ulead Video Studio\10.0\DMG_Temp\CvtedTitle
and has a name that is constructed from the Date, Time, and the first 12 letters f the file name. In my case this morning the file name was
May20_0838x0000_Best of NZ S__000.mpg

The file is still present after the DVD burn and can be accessed, renamed, or copied if you want to keep it. You can ALT-Tab to get to Windows Explorer to do this. The file is erased when you close the Burn window - that is what is taking a long time to close while it puts up a dialog box which says "Saving Project"...

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So far, my only Burn from Timeline failure happened when I put a high definition Divx video file the timeline. 10+ did not crash but it didn't make any progress after 10 minutes so I terminated the burn. One of the CPUs was 100% busy (probably in a tight loop) and the other was idle.

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:45 pm

It does sound like VS10+ is somewhat better then previous versions. We do now know that DivX will cause VS10 problems, when trying to burn from the timeline.

Ron P.

kgs · Post by **kgs** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:15 am

vidoman wrote: I think that it would be nice if Ulead would at least put a warning prompt when you press the Create Disc, with a project in the timeline, asking if you are sure you want to burn a disc before creating a video file. ...

The only problem with a warning like that is that the user needs to understand why he or she is being warned. Otherwise the response might well be, well, why WOULDN'T I burn from the timeline..?

I initially had problems, followed this forum's procedures, and found they worked great. Maybe VS 11+ can be organized to encourage the user to create a file before burn.

A second advantage to pushing the user to create a video file is that a rendered video is more portable; if you move files around, you won't have to reassociate Ulead with it, and if you want to modify it with yet another program, such as Nero, it's ready to go.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:49 am

Please view:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 5484#65484

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:33 pm

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:16 pm

I previously stated in this thread that 10+ quickly smart rendered a DVD-compliant project (lots of clips, etc.) from the timeline and it does - so far, reliably.

However, when I place a single DVD-compliant video file in the timeline and hit the burn button, 10+ re-renders the whole damn thing. What does rendering mean this case? I don't know - but 10+ churned the CPU for 14 minutes for a 10-minute video file and produced a temporary video file, probably identical to the original, before it continued the burn sequence.

However, when I follow the RP: clear the timeline, hit Burn button, and select the same video file, 10+ immediately begins the Video Audio Multiplexing stage and burns correctly.

So, this behavioral bug, which has been there since version 7, is still present in 10+.

IMO, VS should, instead, inspect the timeline for objects that need to be rendered into the video stream (e.g., audio, titles, transitions, etc. If there are none, and the video file(s) are already DVD-compliant, it should treat this situation exactly as it treates video file(s) that have been added with the Add Video File control.