VideoStudio 8 - Lack of intuition

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Lockie

VideoStudio 8 - Lack of intuition

Post by Lockie »

My intuition is limited in trying to fathom how VideoStudio 8 works. A well-written handbook would be wonderful but in an imperfect world I have at least discovered a fount of knowledge on this site for a newbie.
All I'm trying to do is to burn a DVD of a TV program. I've succeeded in a sort of way but if someone can help: I record a digital TV program on my PC using Divco FusionHDTV and you have a choice of .tp and native .mpeg. I presume the native .mpeg is better so I tick that.
Now with VideoStudio you have a choice of three style templates - Celebration, Nature and Slideshow but I don't want any of these - I ended up with a bunch of flowers showing right through the video. How do I stop this?
The program I burned ended up towards the end with the sound and video out of sync. I will try closing down any other programs next time to increase processor power just in case it's the recording but is there any other obvious cause?
Thanks
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Post by sjj1805 »

Haven't used version 8 for quite some time now, we are currently on Version 10. The basic workflow between versions is the same
1. Capture
2. Edit then render a DVD compliant MPEG2 file.
3. Author a DVD from the file created in step 2.

.tp files must be a format native to the Divco FusionHDTV as I've not heard of that format.

MPEG files are meant for viewing and not editing. Most attempts to cut and splice these formats with transitions have a tendency to induce audio/video out of synch issues. If you really must edit them either use a purpose built MPEG Editor e.g. Womble or VideoRedo. Failing that keep editing to a minimum and only use straight cuts/splices. Avoid using transitions.

Another tip is to try and avoid any re-rendering. When you capture try and capture to the intended final output setting. You do this by looking at this list:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 6707#56707
jchunter

Re: VideoStudio 8 - Lack of intuition

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Lockie wrote:I record a digital TV program on my PC using Divco FusionHDTV and you have a choice of .tp and native .mpeg. I presume the native .mpeg is better so I tick that. ... The program I burned ended up towards the end with the sound and video out of sync.
Mpeg is definitely the correct choice for capture because the other choice (assume you mean .ts, AKA .m2t files) is Transport Stream format that has a lot of error detection/correction baggage for transmission.

Your first problem is that Video Studio 8 could not handle high definition video. You have to upgrade if you want to work with this format at all. High definition is a relatively new event on this forum. See Tutorial http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=9854 Video Studio 10+ edits both standard and high definition Mpeg2 video quite well.

Your Audio/Video synch problem is almost certainly caused by a well documented, chronic bug in VS8 that was never fixed properly. Upgrade to version 10+ ASAP.
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Post by tyamada »

I have a Dvico FusionHDTV3 Gold card and ran into the same problem with the .tp files. None of the Ulead products will edit these files without being converted. I tried to use the native mpeg setting to capture and edit video, my results were jekey and very hard to watch. I tried four Ulead programs to make the HD video from the capture and ended up with the same results (MSP8, VS9/10+ and MF5).

The best way to capture the video is if you use .tp file mode and convert the files with HDTVtoMPEG, this utility is very fast and has a very accurate commercial remover included. Then edit your video in the Ulead application of your choice.

As jchunter said VS8 doesn't support HD video, all the programs I use are HD capable. VS8 also had problems with out of sync audio/video, most of the problems have been fixed in the newer verisons of Video Studio.
BrianCee

Re: VideoStudio 8 - Lack of intuition

Post by BrianCee »

Lockie wrote:. Now with VideoStudio you have a choice of three style templates - Celebration, Nature and Slideshow but I don't want any of these - I ended up with a bunch of flowers showing right through the video. How do I stop this?
NO - in the VideoStudio Movie Wizard you have the three template - in the VideoStudio Editor you have no templates - you do what you want - use your creativity - so the way to stop this problem is to use the Editor - not the wizard.
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Post by jchunter »

Brian,
Good detective work. I would never have figured out that he was using the Wizard. That was a real POS in version 8 - and maybe still is.

Terry,
I noticed some internet chatter about this card that sounded similar to your experience. It seems to me that the Fusion firmware is not stripping the m2t baggage correctly. Or does the card use software to do the stripping? The company seems to have a lot of different versions of this product... Is the HDTV5 card any better? (I was thinking about getting one but now maybe that is not a good choice...)
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Post by tyamada »

John:

I love my Dvico FusionHDTV3 Gold card, it is very stable an has good drivers with a lot of options. The FusionHDTV5 Gold uses the same drivers but has newer hardware.

The file it creates is a .tp file (program stream), or you can capture in native mpg. As I explained before I had problems with the video when I use the mpg format.

It comes with software to convert it to SD mpg but it takes way to long to convert it.

As I posted I use HDTVto MPEG to convert the file and edit in VS10+ or MSP8. It only takes a couple of minutes to convert 1 hr of video to something I can edit with all the commercials removed.

I have used Movie Factory 5 to capture video and have been able to edit directly from the capture. I love the capture module in MF5 because it works with all my devices 6 different ones from different manufactures.

The Dvico card also had the capability to capture from broadcast HDTV or cable, some cards only work with broadcast or cable, one or the other.

If you want HD video I would reccomend the Dvico card.
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

Terry,
My understanding is that Mpeg2 "ps" is program stream format that is stored as .mpg files... and Mpeg2 "ts" is transport stream format that is stored in .m2t files, where the program stream (compressed video) is contained in small packets with error control bit overhead.

So when you say "native Mpeg", I assume you mean mpeg2 program stream, which I have seen referred to as "ps" stream. I have never heard of "tp" streams. :?

I wonder if "native Mpeg" is actually mpeg1....? :shock: This would certainly explain a crappy, jumpy picture.
Lockie

Post by Lockie »

Thanks for all your help. I'm now on a steep learning curve.
jchunter

Post by jchunter »

I think Brian's advise is the first to follow: Quit using the Wizard and use the full editor.
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