pang,
The video file that you have re-rendered using smart-render in your first step goes very fast and the program is working properly.
That is the usual method to create a video file on the harddisk that's dvd compliant. So make sure after cutiing / editing the video then whatever format your saving the new mpeg2 file at is in accordance with dvd compliancy.
Try this if you haven't already.
Start a new project with an EMPTY timline.
Go directly to Share->Create Disk.
When the create disk module comes up hit F6 (Preferences) and assign a working folder for this module.
Then after you set the "Preferences" settings STAY in the create disk module/screen and "Import" the video you created in the first step. That video file should be a dvd compliant file if you rendered it properly.
Make sure to have the setting "Do Not Convert Dvd compliiant" files checked ON.
Make a quick menu and test a burn. If the video is dvd compliant it shouldn't need re-rendering.
The object is when you burn or create a dvd image using VS9 it works best going into the burning module with an "EMPTY" timeline (no audio or video files). Then you import the dvd compliant videos into the burning modules. A 2 step process.
Also if this helps,
You can load a non dvd compliant file into the timeline and save it very fast using smart-render because you are matching the export properties to the same as the source videos properties.
But, if the source video isn't a dvd compliant file then it still has to be re-rendered. You make the file dvd compliant when you create the file on the harddisk (your first step).
Also make sure the the videos "Aspect Ratio" 16:9 or 4:3 is the same as the project properties. If they are different the file is rendered using smart-render.
If this still doesn't work for you Post back the properties of the video file that you say is created very fast on the harddisk in your first step.
MD
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jchunter
pangwu, in the Authoring Step (Create Disc), hit that little GEAR icon (bottom left). What options do you have checked off 
You should be using "Do not convert compliant mpeg files"
If your source has mpeg audio, and you have the option "treat mpeg audio as non DVD compliant" checked, then the program will re-encode the source mpeg audio to your project audio type.
Keep in mind that your menus in VS10 might have fade-away transitions selected -- they take time to render and might be alot of the Authoring time...
Regards,
George
You should be using "Do not convert compliant mpeg files"
If your source has mpeg audio, and you have the option "treat mpeg audio as non DVD compliant" checked, then the program will re-encode the source mpeg audio to your project audio type.
Keep in mind that your menus in VS10 might have fade-away transitions selected -- they take time to render and might be alot of the Authoring time...
Regards,
George
Here you are
PAL DVD
25 frames/sec
VBR 7999kps
MPEG audio layer 2
224Kbps
48000Hz
Btw, this file works for VS V9 and VS V10 plus "Create Video File" but not VS V10 plus "Create Disc". Btw, I can't find the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-DVD compliant" option. Where is it? Even follow the user guide, I still can't find it.
PAL DVD
25 frames/sec
VBR 7999kps
MPEG audio layer 2
224Kbps
48000Hz
Btw, this file works for VS V9 and VS V10 plus "Create Video File" but not VS V10 plus "Create Disc". Btw, I can't find the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-DVD compliant" option. Where is it? Even follow the user guide, I still can't find it.
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maddrummer3301
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That option is under the GEAR icon.
But, what you posted looks to me like your "Project Properties".
You also need to post the Aspect Ratio of the source video & the Project Properties.
So, is what you posted your "Project Properties" or the Video files "Properties"
To access the video files properties "Right-Click" on the video file and select Properties.
Make sure to post everything including the frame-size etc.
The thing is that VS isn't recognizing the video file for some reason as being a dvd compliant file. There is a reason for this of course. Either it's a bug in the program or there's something in the source video file that's a little off.
Please right-click on the source video file -> select properties and post the source video files properties back to this thread.
You do this after you load it into the burning module that you have gone to with an EMPTY timeline.
MD
But, what you posted looks to me like your "Project Properties".
You also need to post the Aspect Ratio of the source video & the Project Properties.
So, is what you posted your "Project Properties" or the Video files "Properties"
To access the video files properties "Right-Click" on the video file and select Properties.
Make sure to post everything including the frame-size etc.
The thing is that VS isn't recognizing the video file for some reason as being a dvd compliant file. There is a reason for this of course. Either it's a bug in the program or there's something in the source video file that's a little off.
Please right-click on the source video file -> select properties and post the source video files properties back to this thread.
You do this after you load it into the burning module that you have gone to with an EMPTY timeline.
MD
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Sal M
VS10 Re-render broken
I have tried every setting possible in VS9 and VS10, and the answer is clear. When creating a disc in VS10, it will always re-render. Projects that take 30 minutes in VS9 take 4 hours in VS10.
This seems to affect the create disc option only. I've sent an email to tech support, but no answer.
Normally I don't buy any product that is out less than a year. VS9 was working so well, I thought 10 would be an improvement but I was wrong. I won't be so quick to upgrade in the future.
Are you getting this, Ulead? Too many people on this forum are having the same issue........
This seems to affect the create disc option only. I've sent an email to tech support, but no answer.
Normally I don't buy any product that is out less than a year. VS9 was working so well, I thought 10 would be an improvement but I was wrong. I won't be so quick to upgrade in the future.
Are you getting this, Ulead? Too many people on this forum are having the same issue........
Here is the video file properties
Video
Video Type: MPEG-2 Video, Lower Field First
Total Frames: 6,431 frames
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 x 576, 4:3
Frame rate: 25.000 frames/sec
Data rate: Variable Bit Rate (Max 7999 kbps)
Audio
Audio Type: MPEG Audio Layer 2 Files
Total Samples: 12,347,520 samples
Attributes: 48000Hz, 16 bit, Stereo
Layer: 2
Bit rate: 224 kbps
I have made the project properties matches with video file properties and I have made the create disc gear icon properties same as the video file properties.
The only thing I don't understand is that I really can't find the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-DVD compliant file" under the "Do not convert compliant DVD files". Are we talking the same VS V10 plus version or you are using VS V10 without the "plus". Btw, I'm using the trial version. Not sure this is a bug in the trial version and not in the purchase version. But I doubt.
Have done quite a lot of experiements in VS V9 and VS V10 plus. Only "Create Disc" does re-render in VS V10 plus. Others are working fine. To be honest, I know the function of "Do not convert compliant DVD files" and how it works. But seems like it doesn't work in VS V10 plus "Create Disc". Instead "Create Video File" in VS V10 plus works very fine.
One query. Are you also using VS V10 plus trial and works ok? Can you locate the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-compliant files" option? I really can't. I have already check out the user guide and checking every single menu.
Video
Video Type: MPEG-2 Video, Lower Field First
Total Frames: 6,431 frames
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 x 576, 4:3
Frame rate: 25.000 frames/sec
Data rate: Variable Bit Rate (Max 7999 kbps)
Audio
Audio Type: MPEG Audio Layer 2 Files
Total Samples: 12,347,520 samples
Attributes: 48000Hz, 16 bit, Stereo
Layer: 2
Bit rate: 224 kbps
I have made the project properties matches with video file properties and I have made the create disc gear icon properties same as the video file properties.
The only thing I don't understand is that I really can't find the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-DVD compliant file" under the "Do not convert compliant DVD files". Are we talking the same VS V10 plus version or you are using VS V10 without the "plus". Btw, I'm using the trial version. Not sure this is a bug in the trial version and not in the purchase version. But I doubt.
Have done quite a lot of experiements in VS V9 and VS V10 plus. Only "Create Disc" does re-render in VS V10 plus. Others are working fine. To be honest, I know the function of "Do not convert compliant DVD files" and how it works. But seems like it doesn't work in VS V10 plus "Create Disc". Instead "Create Video File" in VS V10 plus works very fine.
One query. Are you also using VS V10 plus trial and works ok? Can you locate the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-compliant files" option? I really can't. I have already check out the user guide and checking every single menu.
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jchunter
Because you are creating a PAL DVD, you won't have that option (because PAL DVD allows mpeg audio). That option is only there when creating NTSC DVD'spangwu wrote:Btw, I can't find the "Treat MPEG audio file as non-DVD compliant" option. Where is it? Even follow the user guide, I still can't find it.
Regards,
George
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Sal M
jchunter: I was not aware of this bug. I've been using VS9 without any of the problems mentioned. I have VS9 and 10 installed on the same machine, and VS9 can capture the video from MiniDV to mpeg (with scene detect), and go straight to DVD with menus and all. The smartrender works like a charm, and I don't have to do any of the things that are mentioned in the sticky-post (which I read btw).
Thanks, but I guess my problem is that VS9 works for some reason.
As for doing the import on the create-disc page, it works but it defeats my purpose. I need the scenes in the timeline to auto-create the menus, otherwise I have to run scene-detect a second time (another wasted 45 minutes per hour of video).
Thanks, but I guess my problem is that VS9 works for some reason.
As for doing the import on the create-disc page, it works but it defeats my purpose. I need the scenes in the timeline to auto-create the menus, otherwise I have to run scene-detect a second time (another wasted 45 minutes per hour of video).
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jchunter
Sal M wrote:... and I don't have to do any of the things that are mentioned in the sticky-post ...
When you consider the fact that some of us are able to get Video Studio to do exactly what we want 100% of the time, while others on this forum, with the same product, are experiencing 6 hour DVD burns, crashes, blurry video, ruined DVDs, bad sound, no sound, etc. etc. etc., you might realize that we have already made the mistakes that you are making and figured out a better way to operate it.
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Sal M
jchunter:
I appreciate the efforts everyone has put into the workarounds. Just so you understand my perspective, I was originally working with 2 other products from 2 different vendors when I switched to VS9 because it had none of the problems I was experiencing (if it weren't for the free trial, I probably would have gone with an Adobe product).
I got VS9 this xmas, and there was already an update since August 2005, so I believe the combination of the update pack and my hardware/software is working properly. I never bothered to look at this forum until the VS10 upgrade - so I'm in the same boat now.
The workarounds you have outlined are accurate, but I still need help with one thing. The advantage of having the clips in the storyboard is that I can auto-generate DVD menus using "Insert Scenes as Chapters". When I render to mpeg first (which is quick thanks to a funtional SmartRender) and then import video during DVD creation, I have to re-create the Chapters manually. This can be painful, since were talking about more than a dozen typically. Scene detection helps eliminate the manual labor, but costs 45 minutes per hour of video (amazingly, going from MiniDV to mpeg directly includes scene detection at no additional cost). Despite your warning, I tried importing the project during the DVD creation process to see what would happen. While the chapters were preserved, it re-rendered the mpeg costing me an additional 4 hours. Now you can understand why I'll stick with VS9 for now....
In the meantime, I don't think it's acceptible for Ulead to allow these bugs to live as long as they have. These forums are great for the ingenuity in getting things working in the short-term so that a patch has time to be issued. To say that these bugs are known for 4 years, and span across multiple versions is to say that we are masochists and in some way accept the challenge from Ulead to figure out how to get around their inept programming skills. Once again, I appreciate everyone's diligence, and mean to insult no one - except Ulead. I am a little pissed at them right now because everything was working so well.
If anyone has a suggestion, I'd be glad to hear it. Thanks.
I appreciate the efforts everyone has put into the workarounds. Just so you understand my perspective, I was originally working with 2 other products from 2 different vendors when I switched to VS9 because it had none of the problems I was experiencing (if it weren't for the free trial, I probably would have gone with an Adobe product).
I got VS9 this xmas, and there was already an update since August 2005, so I believe the combination of the update pack and my hardware/software is working properly. I never bothered to look at this forum until the VS10 upgrade - so I'm in the same boat now.
The workarounds you have outlined are accurate, but I still need help with one thing. The advantage of having the clips in the storyboard is that I can auto-generate DVD menus using "Insert Scenes as Chapters". When I render to mpeg first (which is quick thanks to a funtional SmartRender) and then import video during DVD creation, I have to re-create the Chapters manually. This can be painful, since were talking about more than a dozen typically. Scene detection helps eliminate the manual labor, but costs 45 minutes per hour of video (amazingly, going from MiniDV to mpeg directly includes scene detection at no additional cost). Despite your warning, I tried importing the project during the DVD creation process to see what would happen. While the chapters were preserved, it re-rendered the mpeg costing me an additional 4 hours. Now you can understand why I'll stick with VS9 for now....
In the meantime, I don't think it's acceptible for Ulead to allow these bugs to live as long as they have. These forums are great for the ingenuity in getting things working in the short-term so that a patch has time to be issued. To say that these bugs are known for 4 years, and span across multiple versions is to say that we are masochists and in some way accept the challenge from Ulead to figure out how to get around their inept programming skills. Once again, I appreciate everyone's diligence, and mean to insult no one - except Ulead. I am a little pissed at them right now because everything was working so well.
If anyone has a suggestion, I'd be glad to hear it. Thanks.