Can 10+ Export .m2t Format?

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:07 pm

Can someone with 10+ please check to see if it can create and Export a video file in mpeg2 Transport format (.m2t) to the Sony HC1 or HC3?
(I'm still waiting for a Boxed version of 10+. )

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:52 pm

John:

Sorry to report that VS10+ doesn't have the ability to create a m2t file.
I am also hard pressed to find a template to create a high definition mpg file. There are templates for WMV HD video but that creating those files are way too slow. I was able to connect my HC1 and capture some video, the help file seems to suggest you need the HD plug-in, not so its already there.

The DV recording selection in the share section looks for a standard DV camera and doesn't detect the HC1.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:01 am

Well, that is a surprise! It would be extremely lame of Ulead to fail to ship native support for high definition video in 10+.

I could care less about actually using m2t to send to the HC1 to playback HD but the overall lack of support for high definition is a real problem. If that were the case, I would not bother to upgrade at all.

Could you please see if you can install the HD plugin? With VS9, the HD templates installed with that plug...

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:09 am

VS10 does have three HD templates, 1440x1080 HD MPEG2, WMV 1280x720 HD and WMV 1440x1080 HD.

The thing I don't like is if you want to output a HD file with other than the setting in the templates you have to have a HD file on the time line and create a custom output (e.g. change frame size or bitrate). If you have a SD file on the time line you can't do a custom output.

The HD plug-in is installed when you install the program.

I haven't had a lot of time to play with VS10, but it seems harder to change things. It will take a little more playing around with.

I find Movie Factory 5 to be better at capturing and simple cuts with HD video and it doesn't use proxy files and is very fast.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:44 am

OK, the Mpeg2 1440x1080 @25Mbps template will work fine for capturing HD and should be easily customizable to uprez to 1920x1080 to output video files.

Have you downloaded the HD Divx codec? After it is installed, you should be able to select it in Create Video File/Compression Tab/ Compression (I have done this in VS9.0) and produce very compact video files with no compression artifacts at 8Mbps.

BTW, in VS9, I have uprezed 720x480 video in the timeline to 1080 line video OK (It doesn't get any sharper) but jpeg stills in the project DO display a lot more of their native resolution. If you can't do that in 10+, it would be a real downgrade...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:44 am

tyamada wrote:I find Movie Factory 5 to be better at capturing and simple cuts with HD video and it doesn't use proxy files and is very fast.

Due to my recent Hard Drive problems I haven't had much chance to look at VS10+ yet but one thing I did notice in the preferences screen was a check box to enable/disable the use of proxy files.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:00 pm

Hi,
If you custom export the HD material using "Options" and under one of the tabs select "Video" instead of "Video & Audio" doesn't that produce the same results.
Only the Video will be created, you can rename the extension.

The audio stream can also be created by saving only the audio and also changing it's extension.

Just Curious,

MD

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:04 pm

John:
It doesn't matter what your project settings are if you are working with HD video on the time line you can use the custom option to change the parameters, they show up as what they are.

jchunter worte:

Have you downloaded the HD Divx codec? After it is installed, you should be able to select it in Create Video File/Compression Tab/ Compression (I have done this in VS9.0) and produce very compact video files with no compression artifacts at 8Mbps.

I haven't used HD Divx I have a JVC HD VHS recorder to archive my video.

jchunter wrote:

BTW, in VS9, I have uprezed 720x480 video in the timeline to 1080 line video OK (It doesn't get any sharper) but jpeg stills in the project DO display a lot more of their native resolution. If you can't do that in 10+, it would be a real downgrade...

The only way to up rez SD video is to render it with the HD template and then put it back on the time line and change the rez to what you want.
I might be wrong but I haven't figured out a way to change it.

Steve:
I disabled my proxy file setting in MSP8 and VS10 due to the fact it takes longer to build the proxy file than it takes to render the HD project.

I think Movie Factory 5 is better at hanlding HD video for everything except the complicated editing.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:35 pm

Back on the m2t question: If you select an HD video clip in the library, hit SHARE/Export with the HC1 connected via firewire, do you see any option to export to the HC1's tape?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:55 pm

John
Different interface with different options

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:59 pm

John:

No dice, as I said previously the DV Recording Icon when selected with a HC1 connected and powered up will tell you that cannot find DV device.
It's looking for a standard DV camcorder.

If you want to write back to tape you should try this:
http://kgbird.com/DVHSTool/

I use DVHSTools to record mpg streams to my DVHS Recorder, I haven't tried with the HC1, have been too bussy doing other things. You can also capture with the tools.

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:07 pm

Thanks Guys,
I was asking for someone else who really wants to write back an edited video to his HC1's tape. I will report back that 10+ does not support exporting back to the HC1.

I seem to remember trying DVHS last fall before I bought my HC1 and had a lot of difficulty even converting to Mpeg2 transport format...

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:14 pm

Steve:

You just threw me a curve. I saw the top image and didn't realize that it was VS9. I went looking for the Export icon in VS10 and couldn't find it, I thought I was going crazy.

There are 4 selectable screen layouts in VS10, definable thru the File Menu under Preferences.

tyamada · Post by **tyamada** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:20 pm

John:

That was another program I couldn't get to write back to the HC1, DVHSTools seem to work better. The other program was CAPDVHS.

I have been able to write all kinds of files to my JVC DVHS, which does show up in the device manager the same way as the HC1 (AV/C Tape Device).

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:47 pm

Terry,
Thanks for the clarification on the different DVHS programs.

Looking at the 10+ SHARE screen that Steve put up, I see the separate "DV Recording" button. Now, the HC1 can handle DV or HDV, so I'm wondering if 10+ can see the HC1 for writing a DV video file on its tape...