I have an AMD based system an am having problems with creation of DVD's on my system, I can render a perfect mpeg file but when trying to convert it to a dvd the sound after an our is ten seconds ahead of the video and 20 after 2 hours.
I have patch the DVD plugin with patches from this forum and tech support but problem persists.
I converted using mpeg using nero the same happened.
any ideas
the machine is a althlon 1800+
1GB ram
80GB hdd @ 7200rpm transfer rate is 38MB/sec
nec dvd-dl writer
running windows XP sp2 and video studio 8
audio out of sync with video
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Aziz
audio out of sinc
I had the same problem with one of my early DVD's. All of the mpeg files on the computer were perfect, but once on the DVD, the audio became increasingly out of sinc - VERY FRUSTRATING!
The only solution that I could come up with was that for ONE of the mpeg files that went on to the DVD, the settings were LOW (ie. 1800 mbps) and HIGH for the rest (ie. 6000 mbps). I accidently captured some of the footage with low settings, which continued on to when I output the final file. Check the properties of all the files that you are trying to put on DVD and make sure they are the same.
I'm not 100% if this is right, but it is all I could come up with. I could not find a way to fix it so I gave up on it (I burnt all the mpeg files onto a data disc instead).
Aziz
The only solution that I could come up with was that for ONE of the mpeg files that went on to the DVD, the settings were LOW (ie. 1800 mbps) and HIGH for the rest (ie. 6000 mbps). I accidently captured some of the footage with low settings, which continued on to when I output the final file. Check the properties of all the files that you are trying to put on DVD and make sure they are the same.
I'm not 100% if this is right, but it is all I could come up with. I could not find a way to fix it so I gave up on it (I burnt all the mpeg files onto a data disc instead).
Aziz
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damien2929
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Trevor Andrew
Hi All
This out of sync problem is not going away or being solved by tech support.
Posting from GordonT earlier this month
Quote:-
Got this reply back from tech support after sending them details from my original post. Appears that the Version 8.1 patch might be causing a problem. Looks like I am going to have to reinstall and start testing again. Still convinced the problem happened with version 8.0 as well. Will also give the smart render options a try.
From tech support:
Yes, the patch causes the AV sync...……………………………………………………………………
I have also done some test and by not using Smart Render was able to make good video’s.
Reinstalling without the patch also worked for me.
For the time being try creating video files without smart render, takes a bit longer but the results seem ok.
I have now re-installed all patches as directed by tech support, still having problems.
I am waiting for another reply from Tech support.
(GordonT have you cured your audio problem?)
Trevor
This out of sync problem is not going away or being solved by tech support.
Posting from GordonT earlier this month
Quote:-
Got this reply back from tech support after sending them details from my original post. Appears that the Version 8.1 patch might be causing a problem. Looks like I am going to have to reinstall and start testing again. Still convinced the problem happened with version 8.0 as well. Will also give the smart render options a try.
From tech support:
Yes, the patch causes the AV sync...……………………………………………………………………
I have also done some test and by not using Smart Render was able to make good video’s.
Reinstalling without the patch also worked for me.
For the time being try creating video files without smart render, takes a bit longer but the results seem ok.
I have now re-installed all patches as directed by tech support, still having problems.
I am waiting for another reply from Tech support.
(GordonT have you cured your audio problem?)
Trevor
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AndyW1961
Also getting out of sync audio
I'm also experiencing this problem - really annoying, have wasted a lot of time and disks.
Get the same old response from VS support - clear space (I've only got 100GB free!), reinstall, apply fixes.
Has anyone got a definitive solution/work around for this?
All I want to do is edit some clips together and burn onto DVD, pretty poor
if VS can't do that!
Andy
Get the same old response from VS support - clear space (I've only got 100GB free!), reinstall, apply fixes.
Has anyone got a definitive solution/work around for this?
All I want to do is edit some clips together and burn onto DVD, pretty poor
if VS can't do that!
Andy
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Trevor Andrew
Hi Andi
Try making a dvd without using smart render.
After editing 'create a video file'
In options un tick 'perform smart render'. the process will take some time to render.
Use the new video file (mpeg2) to burn to disc.
Providing your settings are correct the burner process should start without rendering.
If you make a Dvd Folder, you will be able to play it on your pc to check audio sync. If you do not have the software to play TS Folders, rename the last Vob file to Mpeg and import to Video Studio.
Without smart render appears to be one solution and makes good dvd's.
let us know if you have success
All the best
Try making a dvd without using smart render.
After editing 'create a video file'
In options un tick 'perform smart render'. the process will take some time to render.
Use the new video file (mpeg2) to burn to disc.
Providing your settings are correct the burner process should start without rendering.
If you make a Dvd Folder, you will be able to play it on your pc to check audio sync. If you do not have the software to play TS Folders, rename the last Vob file to Mpeg and import to Video Studio.
Without smart render appears to be one solution and makes good dvd's.
let us know if you have success
All the best
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jchunter_2
Trevor,
I really hoped to have better news but I tried dumb rendering my chronically out of sync project (that has perfect V/A sync as a video file). Unfortunately, the dvd.iso file displays exactly the same OOS symptoms: Audio leading video by about 1 second.
This does not imply that dumb rendering doesn't help some people because the OOS problem could be complex and could require multiple solutions.
BTW, (1) Regressing my Program Files\Common Files\...\DVD directory back to version 8 (or any other of the possible combinations) does not work for this project either and (2) I have burned a number of DVDs that were captured directly to Mpeg2 and they demonstrate perfect sync, and (3) Regressing back to the shipped version 8.00 also does not cure OOS for this project.
Again, this does NOT rule out the possibility that these are causative for some combinations of Video Studio program states.
IMHO, Ulead has really blown it with their lack of response to this serious problem that potentially affects all of us.
I really hoped to have better news but I tried dumb rendering my chronically out of sync project (that has perfect V/A sync as a video file). Unfortunately, the dvd.iso file displays exactly the same OOS symptoms: Audio leading video by about 1 second.
This does not imply that dumb rendering doesn't help some people because the OOS problem could be complex and could require multiple solutions.
BTW, (1) Regressing my Program Files\Common Files\...\DVD directory back to version 8 (or any other of the possible combinations) does not work for this project either and (2) I have burned a number of DVDs that were captured directly to Mpeg2 and they demonstrate perfect sync, and (3) Regressing back to the shipped version 8.00 also does not cure OOS for this project.
Again, this does NOT rule out the possibility that these are causative for some combinations of Video Studio program states.
IMHO, Ulead has really blown it with their lack of response to this serious problem that potentially affects all of us.
Last edited by jchunter_2 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
audio
check the sampling rate of your captured audio. try to make sure it matches your final output profile (ie -- for dvd, capture at 48khz audio)
if you capture at 44.1khz or 32khz audio (or something else), then the dvd authoring will need to convert the audio to be dvd compliant (48khz)-- this could be one source for OOS problems...
if you capture at 44.1khz or 32khz audio (or something else), then the dvd authoring will need to convert the audio to be dvd compliant (48khz)-- this could be one source for OOS problems...
George
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jchunter_2
Forgot to post the capture, edit, and burn properties for my OOS project:
Digital capture thru firewire with VS8.01 direct to Mpeg2, no dropped frames, very light editing
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo
Digital capture thru firewire with VS8.01 direct to Mpeg2, no dropped frames, very light editing
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo
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Trevor Andrew
Hi John
I am waiting for a third reply from ulead tech support.
I have done a load of sync tests and the only way I can produce a good file is by either
1/ using a small file below 1 Gb.( although I haven’t followed this up as far as testing goes)
2/ not using Smart Render to make the video file.
3/ using VS 8 without the patch.
If I capture to mpeg and create a TS folder without edit or render all is in sync’
When I edit and render, the resultant Mpeg looks ok, but when I use the file in the burner module after multiplexing to Ts folder or image or disc the problems start.
In my last attempt I made a slide show using Jpegs and audio samples.
Each image having a transition effect.
Created a video file with smart render, The resultant disc was ok.
I then reused the Mpeg and edited, the resultant disc being out of sync.
It would appear that the problem arises after Mpeg editing with smart render.
There are so many options its mind boggling.
And I agree with you Ulead should have sorted this problem ages ago.
Trevor
I am waiting for a third reply from ulead tech support.
I have done a load of sync tests and the only way I can produce a good file is by either
1/ using a small file below 1 Gb.( although I haven’t followed this up as far as testing goes)
2/ not using Smart Render to make the video file.
3/ using VS 8 without the patch.
If I capture to mpeg and create a TS folder without edit or render all is in sync’
When I edit and render, the resultant Mpeg looks ok, but when I use the file in the burner module after multiplexing to Ts folder or image or disc the problems start.
In my last attempt I made a slide show using Jpegs and audio samples.
Each image having a transition effect.
Created a video file with smart render, The resultant disc was ok.
I then reused the Mpeg and edited, the resultant disc being out of sync.
It would appear that the problem arises after Mpeg editing with smart render.
There are so many options its mind boggling.
And I agree with you Ulead should have sorted this problem ages ago.
Trevor
I too was frutrated by audio/video sync problems. My audio was three seconds ahead of video! Not only that but chapter sync was out too! All these problems went away when I stopped working with mpeg files (apparently each time you render mpeg files you lose some data). I now capture AVI files, edit AVI files and create new AVI video files. None of my output, including DVDs, suffer with sync problems anymore.
The downside is that I was forced to buy a big capacity external hard drive to store my AVI source and edited files - infact I will probably have to buy a few if I want to digitise all my home movies.
Interestingly the out of sync chapter selection problem has appeared again. This time it is when I try to create a slideshow with jpeg images. I created an mpeg file of my images for use in future VS projects and I was able, using the 'use scene change' option to create chapters based on my images. But guess what? The chapter sync was out when I tested it! Unfortunately when I tried it with an AVI file the option of using the 'use scene change' was greyed out!! Looks like I will have to set the chapters manually.
Two steps forward and one step back!
Just thought I share that with you.
The downside is that I was forced to buy a big capacity external hard drive to store my AVI source and edited files - infact I will probably have to buy a few if I want to digitise all my home movies.
Interestingly the out of sync chapter selection problem has appeared again. This time it is when I try to create a slideshow with jpeg images. I created an mpeg file of my images for use in future VS projects and I was able, using the 'use scene change' option to create chapters based on my images. But guess what? The chapter sync was out when I tested it! Unfortunately when I tried it with an AVI file the option of using the 'use scene change' was greyed out!! Looks like I will have to set the chapters manually.
Two steps forward and one step back!
Just thought I share that with you.
Still learning
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maddrummer3301
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AndyW1961
Success
Trevor,
Turning off Smartrender seems to have cured my out of sync issue.
Am sure I tried that before but perhaps it's the combination of creating
a video file without using Smartrender and then importing that to burn to disk.
Did take about 4-5 hours to render but a small price to pay since I was
losing the will to live.
Funny I chose VS over Pinnacle because I heard that had a lot of bugs,
should have read this forum first!
Thanks,
Andy
Turning off Smartrender seems to have cured my out of sync issue.
Am sure I tried that before but perhaps it's the combination of creating
a video file without using Smartrender and then importing that to burn to disk.
Did take about 4-5 hours to render but a small price to pay since I was
losing the will to live.
Funny I chose VS over Pinnacle because I heard that had a lot of bugs,
should have read this forum first!
Thanks,
Andy
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Trevor Andrew
Hi John
Thanks for trying the render option. Sorry it did not improve your video, your comments got me thinking.
My thoughts are that the smart render process corrupts the mpeg file in some way. Unfortunately the file appears ok until it is subjected to multiplexing in the burner module, this makes it much harder to identify problem mpegs.
I am aware that you prefer to use several smaller clips rather than a large one.
Did you use individual projects to make small mpegs that have undergone the smart render procedure?
Then used the resultant mpegs in a new project to make a complete video.
If you did then I would expect an out of sync’ result.
I have just completed another test, using a few mpeg created earlier on separate projects, I proceeded to put them together, to complete the movie I re-rendered the mpeg on VS8 only, hoping for a good result, the TS file was again out of sync’.
Seems to suggest that any smart render corrupts the mpeg file for good.
Trevor
Thanks for trying the render option. Sorry it did not improve your video, your comments got me thinking.
My thoughts are that the smart render process corrupts the mpeg file in some way. Unfortunately the file appears ok until it is subjected to multiplexing in the burner module, this makes it much harder to identify problem mpegs.
I am aware that you prefer to use several smaller clips rather than a large one.
Did you use individual projects to make small mpegs that have undergone the smart render procedure?
Then used the resultant mpegs in a new project to make a complete video.
If you did then I would expect an out of sync’ result.
I have just completed another test, using a few mpeg created earlier on separate projects, I proceeded to put them together, to complete the movie I re-rendered the mpeg on VS8 only, hoping for a good result, the TS file was again out of sync’.
Seems to suggest that any smart render corrupts the mpeg file for good.
Trevor