Double layer 8mb for 2 hour comp?

[sXeChic]

I'm using Ulead Videostudio 8 because 9 has so many problems I have no more hair to rip out. Now every compilation I'm trying to put together somehow goes into Layer 2 (Double layer) and a 2 hour movie becomes about 8gb. What on earth is going on? It's bad enough it won't capture audio from my capture card but now this? I have so many backed up projects on my computer because everything is suddenly 8gb.

How do I fix this? Why would a 2 hour program, this one is 2 hours and 3 minutes take up 8gb and not be able to be burned to a 4.7 DVD unless I pixelate it like crazy.

Help!

I don't think my system requirements are needed for this one.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

A bit more information is needed.
What are your video clip properties? Right click a clip in the timeline and select properties, what are they?
If you are having quality problems then we will have to look at your capture process!

Are you following the recommended procedure from the top post?

As a Guide this is the workflow you should be following.

1 / Capture your video, preferably to Dv-Avi

2 / Edit your project

3/ (important) Share Create a Video File of your project, a 123 minute video will need a bit rate of about 4000 Kbps. What settings are you using?
If you are using 8000 then the file size will be about 8 Gb.
Using Digital Dolby or Mpeg Audio will reduce the file size.

4 / (important) Start a new project, Share Create Disc, Add Video use the file made in 3 above.
Make sure your project properties match the video file properties.

Hope this Helps

Trevor

[sXeChic]

3/ (important) Share Create a Video File of your project, a 123 minute video will need a bit rate of about 4000 Kbps. What settings are you using?
If you are using 8000 then the file size will be about 8 Gb.
Using Digital Dolby or Mpeg Audio will reduce the file size.
Hope this Helps

Trevor

That's what I'm doing right there. Some of the clips are 8000 and some others are 8999. I had to capture with something else and I don't know if it has an avi option, usually when I see material downloaded through avi, I'm not happy with the results. Is there a way I can change my bit rate while it's on the time line? I have one file that's been converted already and it's 8gb and then I have another project only in time line, I haven't created a video of it because I'm still stuck on the one that's been converted.

I am using MPEG audio layer 2 on the project with the timeline
The finished comp is using LPCM audio with 8000 bit rate

I can post all the properties if it's the bit rate that can't be fixed.

edit: I figured out how to lower the bit rate from 8000 to 4000 and now it's back to normal. Thanks for pointing that out and your help.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

If you right click the clip in the timeline and select properties, you will see the clip properties either Mpeg or Avi. I suspect you are using Mpeg files.

The project you have converted already using 8000 will produce a file about 4.3 Gb per hour.

When you select Share Create Video File you have several template options.
If you select Pal/Ntsc-Dvd you will use the standard default template using 8000.
Where are you in this big wide world—Pal or Ntsc?

If your final movie/dvd is over 60 minutes then you will have to use a lower rate.
To do this:-
You can either create your own templates using ‘Tools-Make Movie Manager’
The new template can be selected from Share Create Video File.
Or
Use the ‘custom’ option ‘.

You will get about 60 minutes using 8000 kbps
You will get about 90 minutes using 6000 kbps
You will get about 120 minutes using 4000 kbps

There are calculators you can use to estimate the bit rate.
http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

Read my guide ‘Bit Rate & File Sizes’ from the link below

Hope this Helps

Trevor

[DVDDoug]

The finished comp is using LPCM audio...

Using Digital Dolby or Mpeg Audio will reduce the file size.

RIGHT! LPCM eats up a lot of disc space. If I've calculated correctly, it's 10MB per minute. That's 1.2GB (over 1/4 of a single-layer your DVD) for your 2 hour program. That means you have to use more video compression to fit the program on a DVD. More compression = lower quality.

and not be able to be burned to a 4.7 DVD unless I pixelate it like crazy.

Higher bitrate = higher quality = more disc space = lower compression = less playing time.
Lower bitrate = lower quality = less disc space = higher compression = more playing time.

Capture your video, preferably to Dv-Avi

RIGHT! A couple of other things you should know:

MPEG is lossy compression. Each time you encode, you loose quality/detail. When you change the bitrate, you degrade the video. MPEGs are not meant to be edited. Most editing (except for cutting & splicing) requires a decode/re-code cycle. Ideally, you should encode to MPEG one time after all editing is done!

If you edit MPEGs, you might get some other wierd problems too... like the infamous "lip-sync" problem.