Help, can't render over 8.5 GB at the time :S

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Hi, i have about ten small movie files witch i would like to render into one DVD. But the total of the ten files is about 15 GB...But when i try to render, it says "Project content over limitation"...And i can't select anything higher than the 8.5 GB DVD...Could someone please tell me how to do this?? I realy need help here

[DVDDoug]

8.5GB is the maximum amount of data you can put on a dual-layer DVD. About half-that for a "regular" single layer DVD.

Use a lower bitrate:

Higher bitrate = higher quality = more disc space = lower compression = less playing time.

Lower bitrate = lower quality = less disc space = higher compression = more playing time.

Here's a link to a Bitrate Calculator.

For good quality, you should keep it down to about 3 hours of video (and Dolby audio) on a dual-layer disc. (Less playing time with LPCM audio.) What's the total playing-time for those 10 small movies? If you're not concerned with quality, you can squeeze a lot more on a disc. (I'm not sure what the lowest-allowable bitrate is.)

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8.5GB is the maximum amount of data you can put on a dual-layer DVD. About half-that for a "regular" single layer DVD.

Use a lower bitrate:

Higher bitrate = higher quality = more disc space = lower compression = less playing time.

Lower bitrate = lower quality = less disc space = higher compression = more playing time.

Here's a link to a Bitrate Calculator.

For good quality, you should keep it down to about 3 hours of video (and Dolby audio) on a dual-layer disc. (Less playing time with LPCM audio.) What's the total playing-time for those 10 small movies? If you're not concerned with quality, you can squeeze a lot more on a disc. (I'm not sure what the lowest-allowable bitrate is.)

Is't there another way?? I just wanted to use MF because it's so easy to use, and then theres a limit, witch i can't avoid I was planing to run it through DVD Shrink afterwords...
Is there another way??
I can't seem to find the way to make the biterate lower so the size become smaller :S ???
Do you know any good programs to convert my movie files to a lower bitrate before i put them in MF???

[DVDDoug]

I can't seem to find the way to make the biterate lower so the size become smaller

It's under Project Settings. Did you read the user's manual?

The machine I'm on right now doesn't have MF, so I can't check the longest playing time.

Do you know any good programs to convert my movie files to a lower bitrate

No. How low do you want to go? You didn't say how long your movies are (playing time) or what bitrate you are shooting for... You might look for a program that can make an MPEG-1 DVD (I don't think MF can do that). The DVD spec allows MPEG-1, and you should be able to fit around 7 hours of MPEG-1 with Dolby audio on a single-layer DVD. Maybe over 3 hours with LPCM audio. (I'm not that picky about video quality, but I wouldn't want to watch a movie with such poor quality.)

[sjj1805]

Please view:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... ght=#56707

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1. I have 13 movie files witch i like to convet into a DVD format, with menus ...The files codes are:
Video: DivX Decoder Filter
24 bits, 512 x 384

Audio: MPEG Layer-3
160 kBit/s, 48000 Hz Stereo

2. When i put them all into my MF, it's 4 Hour and 58 min...15.51 GB.

3. I tryid to push the "fit to disc" button, couldn't do it.

Last thing i can see work is to change the video bitrate down the the lowest (1777) and then it seems to work (i am rendering at the moment)

But isn't there another way???

[sjj1805]

4 hours 58 minutes is pushing it a bit. I would use two discs or get a dual layer disc.

[DVDDoug]

...the video bitrate down the the lowest (1777) ....But isn't there another way???

No! It's math... Same number of bits, more time = less bits per second. You are limited to 4.35GB. More hours of video squeezed onto a DVD means less GB per hour. Less GB per hour means less bits per second. Think about it... The DVD actually spins slower at a lower bitrate. The "movie" doesn't play slower... It has the same number of frames-per-second, just less data (detail) per frame.

Here's another way to think about it.... Imagine you have a water tank that holds 4.35 gallons (or liters). If you want that tank to empty in 5 hours instead of the usual 90 minutes, you have to slow-down the flow rate.

Video: DivX Decoder Filter
24 bits, 512 x 384
Audio: MPEG Layer-3
160 kBit/s, 48000 Hz Stereo
...i am rendering at the moment)

Oh No! I've never played-around with DivX myself, but several users have reported horrendous render-times, with these highly-compressed files... Sometimes 12 - 24 hours!!!! Sometimes they don't work at all.

If it's taking too long, you might try a smaller project with the same settings, to make sure everything is working first. You might want to see what that 1777 bitrate is going to look like too.

You may need to find a 3rd-party program to convert your DivX files to MPEG-2 or AVI/DV before importing them into Movie Factory.

And more bad news - Whenever you convert from one lossy format (i.e. DivX/MPEG-4) to another lossy format (i.e. DVD/MPEG-2), you get some video-quality loss... no matter what bitrate you use. (Maybe you don't care about the video quality, or you wouldn't be trying to squeeze all of this video onto one DVD.)

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Thanks to both DVDDoug and sjj1805...I have learned alot, and DVDDoug you have a very good way to make me understand the big picture
And yeah you are rigth, i realy don't care if the quality lakes i bit, i know that the downside of puttin that much data in one disc

I have another question about menus:
If i have a project from MF 4 and want to use it in MF 5, why can't i get he menus with me??? I tryid to find a guide (sjj1805 had a topic) but i couldn't seem to get it...So could some of you myabe make a newbie guide to pull the menus from MF 4 to Mf 5??? Or if i missed something, guide me to the guide I would be very glad...

[sjj1805]

The guide is here:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=11378