Chapters missing audio in VS9

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Bruce

For next time

During editing the Avi’s make a note of the project time code where you would like your chapter points. After rendering the whole project to one file, share create disc.

When adding chapter points use the times selected earlier. Simply input the time into the time-code clock and hit add.

Trevor

[Black Lab]

No offense Bruce, but it's time for you to put your stubborness aside and do what the guys have suggested. Follow the recommended procedures to a "T". If it fails, then we know there is some other problem and we can work on it from that point. If it works, YEA!, and we can put this one to bed.

[TubaDad]

No offense taken, I have been abuse for being stubborn for a long time. I have reached the point that I will be following the instructions to get this one done, but I will be stubborn and go back to my normal process for the next one and just know where I have to fall back to.

Trevor, I did test your process by adding the clips into the burn process and it worked fine, but I can't live with the transition between the clips, too painful. I am generating the single file with transitions next. It hurts, but sometimes you have to take it.

Thanks for everyone's help!

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Bruce

When you try your approach again, make the rendered files are small enough to fit a disc.

That way when you come to render the files again in the burner stage it should only render the transitions and not the full video, as it will not need to change the bit rate.

Glad to hear you are having success
All the Best

Trevor

[TubaDad]

Thanks for the help Trevor, Ken and Black Lab. Well Black Lab just jumped in to remind me to not be so stubborn, but that's helping...right?

I have finally put this project to bed, I am going to keep hammering on it, but at least I have a distributable DVD. I did follow the procedures to a "T", but I have to admit if I had to follow that procedure the whole time that I have been using VS, I would have switched years ago. I will go back to my time trusted procedure, but when it fails in the future, after a fit of cussing, I will be able to roll back to the sticky note and generate the DVD.

Along the way I did run into another little problem, with a different method of processing that surprised me. I guess I got all of the problems other had run into finally in this one project. None of the problems made any sense, but they did happen. So a quick recap on what I did and the trials and tribulations along the way, short versions. How does that saying go, "if I can help one person..." Please take into consideration that this is a 22 chapter 1.75 hour (105 minute) video.

First procedure and issue:
Procedure:
- Import the video in AVI (DV) format.
- Mark chapters and save, and verify, those clips in MPEG2 (DVD) format.
- Compile clips in one project, adding transitions and titles.
- Share-Create Disc - Burn, using the clips in the project to identify the chapter breaks. (The dreaded render while you burn process) (1.5 hours to render and burn)
- I always burn folders to a hard drive, never straight to disc.
Issues:
- Random chapters had no audio. (There was no problem with the audio in the clip that was used)
- Varied number of chapters with no audio, as high as 4 as low as 1.

Second procedure:
Procedure:
- Import the video in AVI (DV) format.
- Mark chapters and save, and verify, those clips in MPEG2 (DVD) format.
- Compile clips in one project, adding transitions and titles.
- Share-Create Video File - Burn to MPEG2 (same file/project settings as the clips used), using the clips in the project. (Very similar to the stick procedure except using MPEG2 files in the project)
Issues:
- One section had no audio. (This would have been a chapter in the final DVD. Again there was no problem with the audio in the original clip)

Third procedure:
Procedure:
- Import the video in AVI (DV) format.
- Mark chapters and save, and verify, those clips in AVI (DV) format.
- Compile clips in one project, adding transitions and titles.
- Share-Create Disc - Burn, using the clips in the project to identify the chapter breaks. (The dreaded render while you burn process, this time with AVI files as the clips) (6.25 hours to render and burn)
Issue:
- One of the menus had no thumbnail titles. (Insignificant, unless you are one of the acts on that page)

Fourth, and final, procedure (the sticky procedure, as I read it):
Procedure:
- Import the video in AVI (DV) format.
- Mark chapters and save, and verify, those clips in AVI (DV) format.
- Compile clips in one project, adding transitions and titles.
- Share-Create Video File - Burn to MPEG2, using the clips in the project. (5 hours to render)
- Create new project file with clear timeline.
- Share-Create Disc - Burn, Using the one MPEG2 file created in the "Create Video File" step, drop it in using the Add video feature in the Burn Disc process.
Issues:
- None with the final product. Many with the process to get there. At least the disc is done.


I can not believe that people actually use this procedure regularly to create their discs. While I dearly appreciate the effort put into coming up with this procedure, I have to admit that I would have dropped the product a long time ago if I had to follow this process to get my final product. I would equate it to having car problems and then pushing your car to work. You get there, but it just doesn't feel right.

I'm not trying to complain (too much), because I have loved using VS right up to this project. I will fall back to my time-trusted procedure, knowing that I may have to use the sticky procedure if I run into issues. I was just amazed how it popped up now, after using VS9 since it came out. I guess I should be surprised how few problems I have had in the past.

Again, thanks for the help.

[Black Lab]

I can not believe that people actually use this procedure regularly to create their discs. While I dearly appreciate the effort put into coming up with this procedure, I have to admit that I would have dropped the product a long time ago if I had to follow this process to get my final product. I would equate it to having car problems and then pushing your car to work. You get there, but it just doesn't feel right.

Bruce, I equate the problems you originally went through as pushing your car to work, up hill no less! As far as the recommended procedure, it's more like driving your car on a 100 degree day and the a/c doesn't work. It might be uncomfortable, but you still get to your destination

I've used the recommended procedure from the start, so for me it's not a problem. I don't know anything different. I'm glad, though, that you finally were able to finish your project. I'm sure you'll go back to your old method, but now you know the wisdom of the Recommended Procedure