Problem with Ulead Movie Factory 5???

go4saket · Post by **go4saket** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:14 pm

Hello Friends!

I recently downloaded Ulead Movie Factory 5 for the basic purpose of creating Menus for DVD. I have a few movie stored in my HDD in DVD format. The problem is that whenever I want to add any movie to the list, the space taken by that movie is much more than it actually is. Say for example a movie of size 1.5 GB takes more than 4 GB and therefore I am unable to add multiple movies on a single DVD. This doesn't happen with any other software.

Please guide me as to how can I overcome this problem.

Thank you.

snoops · Post by **snoops** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:11 pm

Hi,

Do you have the option "Do not convert compliant MPEG files" enabled in the project settings, or is this happening anyway?

go4saket · Post by **go4saket** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:26 am

I am very new to this software and so I didnt change any of the default settings.

snoops · Post by **snoops** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:19 pm

Check the project settings and enable that option.

If that option is not enabled, then MF will rerender everything to match your chosen project output settings.

If it still rerenders with the option enabled, then you'll need to specify exactly what type of MPEG2 files you have on your HDD.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:10 am

You haven't told us what those what those files "in DVD format" are and I strongly suspect they are files youve downloaded off the internet and will be in one of the following highly compressed formats
DivX
Xvid
MPEG4
Which appear to be the favourite formts for sharing video over the internet.

If so they are much more compressed than the required MPEG2 format and will 'grow' in size

Please also see this post:
7th post down http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=11923

go4saket · Post by **go4saket** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:54 pm

Actually I had a few DVD'sn but all these DVD's had only one movie. So to accomodate more than one movie in a DVD, I used DVD Shrink to compress the movie. The movie is still in .vob format. The attributes of the movie as shown by Movie Factory are as follows:

File Format : NTSC DVD
File Size : 1048574 KB
Duration : 3189.423 Seconds
Video Type: MPEG-2 Video, Lower Field First
Total Frames: 95587 Frames
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 x 480, 16:9
Frame Rate : 29.970 frames/sec
Data Rate : Variable bit rate (Max. 3700 kbps)
Audio Type : Dolby Digital Audio
Total Samples : 153,092,292 Samples
Attributes : 48000 Hz.
Layer : None
Bit rate : 448 kbps

Now when I add this movie, it takes about 2.81 GB space. If I diactivate "Do not convert compliant MPEG files", it still takes about 2.74 GB space. When the actual file size is about 1 GB, why does it take this extra space. I dont want to encode the movie again. All I want is to add two to three movies in a single DVD with a menu.

Is it possible and if yes, how??? Please help as it is very urgent...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:01 pm

Ok this begs the question:
If you have a movie on DVD and now want to copy that movie onto another DVD so that the new one includes more than one movie
Why

Isn't it just easier to click the 'open' button on your DVD remote control and swap discs.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:07 am

go4saket,

You need to change the "Project Settings" to MATCH the source videos that your importing into MF.
Click on the GEAR icon on the bottom of the screen and select Change Mpeg Settings -> Customize.
In the Customize screen you then make the changes to match the source videos. Changing the Video_Bit_Rate Lower will Decrease the file size and changing the Video_Bit_Rate to a higher setiing will increase the size.
MF defaults to 7000 or 8000kbs which explains why the dvd size is doubling in size.
Most likely the audio tracks are Dolby 5.1 because you've Ripped this video (The 448kbs indicates most likely 5.1 audio).

So if you change the "Project Properties" to match the source video properties will fix the size problem. The next problem you will have is you used a program that alters the data stream. That is usually a one-time conversion meaning that re-converting the file may or may not work without generating errors. That's the nature of the beast.

Also, if you have ripped these video(s) from commercial dvd(s) then that isn't supported on this forum due to copyright violations.

Hope this helps,

MD

go4saket · Post by **go4saket** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:32 am

sjj1805 wrote:Ok this begs the question:
If you have a movie on DVD and now want to copy that movie onto another DVD so that the new one includes more than one movie
Why

Isn't it just easier to click the 'open' button on your DVD remote control and swap discs.

The problem is that the DVD's I need to backup are on the verge of dying as they are heavely strached. Now I dont want to copy one movie in one DVD as I feel that if I have multiple movies on one DVD, it would be easir to handle.

@ maddrummer3301
The DVD's I am going to make wouldn't be for any commercial use. It would just stay in my collection, for sure. By the way, even if I set the attributes of the movie similar to the source movie, I guess it still would be encoded at the end. I dont want to encode the movie at all. Rather I want to just add up the movies and add a menu to them, without any further encoding.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:27 am

Whatever,
Any more posts related to copy-righted material will most likely be deleted.
Not because it's your post. Because of the subject.
You can do what you want, just not supposed to ask for help doing it.

The only method I know of to preserve dvd's is the "Panasonic" Dvd recorders use cartridges for the dvd-ram disks. They are removable so I put the commercial dvd into one of them. You can even drop them, toss them around.
The cartridges protect the dvd's. Works great. I don't understand why the industry hasn't standardized something similar. But then maybe they wouldn't
make money in the long run.

They are making scratch resistant dvd's now. Don't know how well they hold up. I've even used dvd covers that are clear. Didn't work to well, and talk about un-balancing the disk

Later,

MD