Hi, I'm encountering a problem with menus in VS 9. I have applied all the applicable patches.
I have built the menus (main and chapter) starting with a Ulead template, then adding my own background picture (JPEG), and customized layout, button images, and scene frames -- all from VS's built-in picks. The only thing that's not from a built-in is the background JPEG.
Everything works fine, except the scene frames don't highlight when the final DVD is played back. This was tested both on a set-top Sony DVD player and with WinDVD 5 on the PC.
The menus work -- you just can't tell when you have selected a particular thumbnail. This, obviously, makes it hard to use.
The actual video files (one for the menu open, one for the content) were built in separate VS 9 projects. The menu project imports them as completed MPEGs, which work fine.
(The menu problem exists whether or not I have a menu-open video.)
I can't find this in any of the documentation.
I am hoping to finish this in two weeks as an Easter present. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--Charlie
Menu Problem: Scene Frames Don't Highlight When Selected
Moderator: Ken Berry
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Trevor Andrew
Hi Charlie
I have looked at the Chapter and Menu structure and cannot simulate your problem.
When I preview the video / menu on the third window, I float my mouse over a thumbnail and it highlights.
In the Customise section choose Scene Frame F010 as your frame it is quite large and should stand out well.
When you say you have installed all the applicable patches, did you include the ‘CD/DVD Burning Patch’ from general updates at :- http://www.ulead.com/tech/vs/vs.htm
Trevor
I have looked at the Chapter and Menu structure and cannot simulate your problem.
When I preview the video / menu on the third window, I float my mouse over a thumbnail and it highlights.
In the Customise section choose Scene Frame F010 as your frame it is quite large and should stand out well.
When you say you have installed all the applicable patches, did you include the ‘CD/DVD Burning Patch’ from general updates at :- http://www.ulead.com/tech/vs/vs.htm
Trevor
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Trevor Andrew
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nc1n@arrl.net
Patch/Disk Type Replies
Answer to Trevor - No, thanks, I hadn't seen that patch and I will try it.
Answer to George - I am creating a DVD.
Additional info: The menus preview fine in the menu wizard. The problem occurs after I create the DVD. I am first creating a DVD.ISO file on my HD and then burning the DVD in a second step.
Other (commercial) DVDs display fine in the two players I mentioned.
Thanks for the help.
--Charlie
Answer to George - I am creating a DVD.
Additional info: The menus preview fine in the menu wizard. The problem occurs after I create the DVD. I am first creating a DVD.ISO file on my HD and then burning the DVD in a second step.
Other (commercial) DVDs display fine in the two players I mentioned.
Thanks for the help.
--Charlie
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nc1n@arrl.net
Still.GeorgeW wrote:Are you using motion or still menus
OK, but pardon me for the newbie question: I can't figure out how to post files? I would like to do so privately, of course.GeorgeW wrote: If you don't mind me looking at the menu, look in your VIDEO_TS folder (of the burned DVD disc). Can you post the *.IFO files, and the VIDEO_TS.VOB and the VTS_01_0.VOB files
Also, there is no VTS_01_0.VOB file; but there are _1, _2, _3.
I did apply the general patch mentioned in Trevor's patch, along with the Flash patch (not that I expected the latter to matter). No effect.
Thanks.
--Charlie
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THoff
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nc1n@arrl.net
Additional info from testing tonight...
I "burned" a DVD to folders on the disk. Setup was identical, except I used a completely out-of-the-box template. The menu highlighting worked OK.
This leads me to believe it is the background image that is creating the problem... by process of elimination. Has anyone used background images successfully, and if so, any tips?
Where does the highlighting get stored in the DVD file set? Is it stored as an image somewhere?
Also, in response to THoff: thanks, but since it shows OK in the preview mode but not in the "burned" file (on the same monitor), it has something to do with the process that creates the final menu files.
--Charlie
I "burned" a DVD to folders on the disk. Setup was identical, except I used a completely out-of-the-box template. The menu highlighting worked OK.
This leads me to believe it is the background image that is creating the problem... by process of elimination. Has anyone used background images successfully, and if so, any tips?
Where does the highlighting get stored in the DVD file set? Is it stored as an image somewhere?
Also, in response to THoff: thanks, but since it shows OK in the preview mode but not in the "burned" file (on the same monitor), it has something to do with the process that creates the final menu files.
--Charlie
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Trevor Andrew
Hi
I have managed to simulate your problem by forcing a render in the burner module.
1 / The tests require a background image.
2 / I used a clip in the timeline which forced a render in the burner module.
3 / I created a main menu with chapters, the main menu and chapter menu’s had a background image
4 / I created a TS folder to simulate a burn.(save on discs)
The resultant TS folder was played using Power Dvd. The menu DID NOT highlight.
When you create a disc does video studio render the files prior to burning?
Do you get the info window ‘this action will take some time to render’?
If it does render prior to burning then your process or settings are incorrect, read my quick guide to (create a video file) and share (burn to disc) :- http://uk.geocities.com/trevor.andrew@b ... vs/all.htm
I ran a further test as a normal burn and all worked ok. The thumbnails highlighted as normal.
I will check the process later today but it seems like a combination of render in the burner module and background image.??????????
Rendering in the burner module is not recommended.
Good Luck
Trevor
I have managed to simulate your problem by forcing a render in the burner module.
1 / The tests require a background image.
2 / I used a clip in the timeline which forced a render in the burner module.
3 / I created a main menu with chapters, the main menu and chapter menu’s had a background image
4 / I created a TS folder to simulate a burn.(save on discs)
The resultant TS folder was played using Power Dvd. The menu DID NOT highlight.
When you create a disc does video studio render the files prior to burning?
Do you get the info window ‘this action will take some time to render’?
If it does render prior to burning then your process or settings are incorrect, read my quick guide to (create a video file) and share (burn to disc) :- http://uk.geocities.com/trevor.andrew@b ... vs/all.htm
I ran a further test as a normal burn and all worked ok. The thumbnails highlighted as normal.
I will check the process later today but it seems like a combination of render in the burner module and background image.??????????
Rendering in the burner module is not recommended.
Good Luck
Trevor
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nc1n@arrl.net
Trevor,
Thanks so much for the time you are investing!
Unfortunately, I think I told VideoStudio not to warn me about the re-rendering at some point in the past.
However, in reading everything, I think the key to making sure there is no re-rendering is to have the project properties in sync with the properties of the videos?
I don't have time to redo the whole project before work today. I did quickly inspect the settings of the menu-open video, the main video, and the burn project. They appear to be identical -- except for the audio settings. The menu-open and main video have different audio settings. I will change this and reburn. (I would obviously like to avoid redoing the burn project, as there are 17 chapters, each with a carefully-chosen thumbnail!)
Thanks again - and feel free to comment if I'm off the mark on what to do to prevent a re-rendering. Also, if you of a way to turn back on that warning dialog, let me know.
--Charlie
Thanks so much for the time you are investing!
Unfortunately, I think I told VideoStudio not to warn me about the re-rendering at some point in the past.
However, in reading everything, I think the key to making sure there is no re-rendering is to have the project properties in sync with the properties of the videos?
I don't have time to redo the whole project before work today. I did quickly inspect the settings of the menu-open video, the main video, and the burn project. They appear to be identical -- except for the audio settings. The menu-open and main video have different audio settings. I will change this and reburn. (I would obviously like to avoid redoing the burn project, as there are 17 chapters, each with a carefully-chosen thumbnail!)
Thanks again - and feel free to comment if I'm off the mark on what to do to prevent a re-rendering. Also, if you of a way to turn back on that warning dialog, let me know.
--Charlie
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Trevor Andrew
Hi Charlie
Are you following the recommended procedure?
Just to re-cap:-
1 / Capture
2 / Edit
3 / Share Create a Video file ( this step is most important) The rendering will take some time, a lot of time. (save the file to your hard drive)
4 / Start a new Project
5 / Make sure your project settings are the same as the video file made in 3 above, either at this point or in the next stage.
6 / Share Create Disc ( there should be NO video files in the timeline)
7 / Add Video ( use the video/s created in 3 above)
8 / Add Edit Chapters ( sorry but I think you will have to make them all again)
It is important that when first going to Share Create Disc that there is NOTHING in the timelines.
It is important that when going Share Create Disc that you DO NOT Add a Video Studio Project.
When you hit the Burn button you should NOT see the warning window ‘ This action will take some time to render’
Audio settings:- I do not think the audio settings will force a re-render.
I am a little confused as to the wording--- menu-open video, the main video??????????
Are these two separate Mpeg files?
Trevor
Are you following the recommended procedure?
Just to re-cap:-
1 / Capture
2 / Edit
3 / Share Create a Video file ( this step is most important) The rendering will take some time, a lot of time. (save the file to your hard drive)
4 / Start a new Project
5 / Make sure your project settings are the same as the video file made in 3 above, either at this point or in the next stage.
6 / Share Create Disc ( there should be NO video files in the timeline)
7 / Add Video ( use the video/s created in 3 above)
8 / Add Edit Chapters ( sorry but I think you will have to make them all again)
It is important that when first going to Share Create Disc that there is NOTHING in the timelines.
It is important that when going Share Create Disc that you DO NOT Add a Video Studio Project.
When you hit the Burn button you should NOT see the warning window ‘ This action will take some time to render’
Audio settings:- I do not think the audio settings will force a re-render.
I am a little confused as to the wording--- menu-open video, the main video??????????
Are these two separate Mpeg files?
Trevor
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nc1n@arrl.net
Trevor,
Yes, that is what I did. I had (luckily) read your tutorial several months ago. The only thing I was unclear on was how to get the "burn project" settings identical to the videos being added (figured that out recently), as I have always used the automatic "reset project settings to match clip settings" option to set normal projects.
Re the two files: added by "add video" in the burn wizard... the first is the menu open, that plays before the actual menu comes up. There is a checkbox in the wizard that allows you to do this. The second is the main video from which the chapters, etc. are taken.
--Charlie
Yes, that is what I did. I had (luckily) read your tutorial several months ago. The only thing I was unclear on was how to get the "burn project" settings identical to the videos being added (figured that out recently), as I have always used the automatic "reset project settings to match clip settings" option to set normal projects.
Re the two files: added by "add video" in the burn wizard... the first is the menu open, that plays before the actual menu comes up. There is a checkbox in the wizard that allows you to do this. The second is the main video from which the chapters, etc. are taken.
--Charlie
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Trevor Andrew
Hi Charlie
Ok--Now I understand the two files.
As I said earlier I have managed to simulate the thumbnail highlight problem, which seems to be due to rendering in the burner stage.
Can you confirm that you do re-render in the burner and get the message ‘This action will take some time to render’
The render should not happen here.
Also can you post the properties of both your video files.
Right click the files in the timeline and select properties.
Trevor
Ok--Now I understand the two files.
As I said earlier I have managed to simulate the thumbnail highlight problem, which seems to be due to rendering in the burner stage.
Can you confirm that you do re-render in the burner and get the message ‘This action will take some time to render’
The render should not happen here.
Also can you post the properties of both your video files.
Right click the files in the timeline and select properties.
Trevor
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nc1n@arrl.net
The problem is - at some point in the past, I checked the "don't show me this message again" for this dialog box. This now means I can't check. I have to find a way to turn it back on, either in some options or perhaps in the registry. If you know how, let me know. I am not currently at that PC so haven't had time to go digging.trevor andrew wrote:Can you confirm that you do re-render in the burner and get the message ‘This action will take some time to render’
The render should not happen here.
Will do.trevor andrew wrote:Also can you post the properties of both your video files.
Right click the files in the timeline and select properties.
Thanks for your continuing help -- I actually have 2 DVDs that I'm trying to get ready for Easter and the other one has a virtually identical menu design. The fact that you've been able to recreate the problem is very helpful.
--Charlie