Please, someone help me. I hate this program

[sjj1805]

Trevor
If he's changing the settings to something other than the clips existing settings, having smart render checked/unchecked makes no difference because it will re-render anyway. Smart Render will only stream copy if the output = the input.

If he wants to extract 2.5 hrs from the original 8.5 hrs he would be better extracting it first as a stream copy (With Smart Render) using the existing settings. Then there should be no loss in quality and he is simply extracting the bit he wants. I would also suggest that at this stage do not try and do any other editing such as transitions, titles, filters etc.
Simply create one new file containing the required contents and then do with that whatever you wish.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Steve

Dave has a wmv file downloaded from the web.
He wants to create a dvd of the video and will at some stage have to render to a dvd compliant template.

I am aware of the effect of smart render, and am aware that it has caused problems in the past. Un-checking smart render is just another option he can try and will make little difference to the initial render time, even going wmv to wmv.

By using a short clip ( one minute long ) will reduce his render time and allow him to test the various options with little time involved. When he is successful Dave can try it on the full 2.5 clip.

Dave gave his Wmv settings in an earlier post and indeed look non standard, especially the bit rate 12.5kbps
I have been unable to create a wmv template or use the custom settings to his wmv properties.

If you can suggest a suitable wmv template/profile the same as his video then this should reduce the render time.

Rendering his wmv to another wmv using VS 9 is the step I would take, just like you. But he has tried this option and a few more only to loose his audio!

I still believe rendering without smart render should be tried.


Cheers

Trevor

[who4ever]

I will try it. By the way, I was right, the Video file came out with no audio. I downloaded the file from Pete Townshend's (the guitarist of The Who) web site. Actually, I think it was a streaming video and used a program to convert it to WMV. But it pays perfectly when I open the file using Windows Media Player.

I may not be able to get around to what you suggested for a week, am going away. I'll be in touch in about a week and a half.

[GeorgeW]

Hi Dave

OK

You will need to use the custom option or create your own template to complete the third step Tools—Make Movie Manager.
The template will be available from Share Create Video File just above the Custom option.

I suggest the settings below.

MPEG files
24 Bits, 320 x 240, 29.97 fps
Frame-based
(MPEG-2), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 2500 kbps)
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo

Once this has rendered play the video to check quality, now use this video file to burn a dvd (share create disc—Add Video File)

Again I will be very surprised if you produce a good quality video, but I do wish you luck

Trevor

These settings will produce a NON DVD compliant mpeg video, which will then force yet another render of the video...

I would change it to mpeg1 video, 352x240, and a video bitrate up to 1856kbps.

Regards,
George

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi George

Thanks for the clarification, I choose 320 x 240 as this was the original frame size, and was considering the rendering process.

I have just run a few tests and cannot get Mpeg 1 to burn without rendering even though I use 352x240 frame.

Using Mpeg 2 I have no problems, as you say 352 x 240 is correct.

As for the bit rate 2500 is the most I would advise knowing the source Wmv.

Dave will no doubt return after his break, but his main problem is lack of audio after rendering, rendering to anything.

All the Best Trevor

[GeorgeW]

What video bitrate did you use for the mpeg1 video

It cannot be more than 1856kbps

Regards,
George

[who4ever]

Why could I possibly be having so much trouble with this. Am I the first one to ever try and work with a wmv file?

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi George

I used Make movie manager to create a template to the following:-
The settings were used through-out to the burn.

MPEG files
24 Bits, 352 x 240, 29.97 fps
Frame-based
(MPEG-1), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable 1856
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo

The resultant video file properties did not show a bit rate but only ( Video data rate: Variable )

I Used the normal procedure to burn to disc.
Changed the settings in Cogwheel which now match the clip settings
In the burn stage I could not stop rendering using a Mpeg 1 file, although the option ‘media type’ in the change mpeg settings was greyed out.

Re-Render takes place every time, the resultant file in the Convert folder indicates Mpeg2 format.
I have tried many combinations and still it renders????

Not to worry its only a test.

Trevor

[GeorgeW]

Try CBR -- it's possible with VBR that the bitrate "spikes" above the number you specify. So I think that's why CBR is required when using mpeg1 for DVD.

The settings in the cogwheel don't really matter. Just make sure you use the option to "Do not convert compliant MPEG files"

Regards,
George

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi George

I finally got there, Using constant bit rate seems to have done the trick.

Thanks for all the info

Trevor