I've been reading a lot of reviews on MediaStudio Pro 8 and a lot of them seem to describe it as a mid-class editing software in the professional world... above pinnacle studio, adobe elements and videostudio pro.. but not quite on the level of final cut, avid, premiere etc.
I wanted to ask your opinions.. whether you think it's more for home use or if you think that MediaStudio is on the level for professional editing.
industry use for mediastudio pro
It's powerful enough for small business and enterprise use. For high-end use some of the bigger names (like Avid) would be more suitable, primarily because of the hardware integration and workflow. But we're talking $50,000 plus. MSP8 is very powerful at it's price point, and has a few features that premiere pro doesn't have in the area of file support. I have found Premiere Pro has more features, but compare the price! If you required more that what MSP8 offers, then you probably need the $50,000 suite anyway.
Just my 2 cents, I don't care if you don't agree!
Cheers.
Just my 2 cents, I don't care if you don't agree!
Cheers.
In a former life (before my retirement) I used MSP for a number of industrial purposes, initially producing VHS tapes, then VCDs and SVCDs and finally DVDs. Also, on one occasion, a mini version for intranet use (Real format, as it was before WMV). They fell into 3 categories:
- product publicity and demos
- manufacturing processes and operator training
- manufacturing problem analysis and flow improvement.
The projects were usually fairly short (<15 minutes) from VHS-C and mini-DV tapes.
No one ever complained of the quality, which was limited by the media rather than the software. OTOH, before MSP, I used linear editing, which was a pain and produced some abominable results, despite my best efforts.
Some competitive systems may offer more artistic gadgets, but these are not needed for industrial work.
- product publicity and demos
- manufacturing processes and operator training
- manufacturing problem analysis and flow improvement.
The projects were usually fairly short (<15 minutes) from VHS-C and mini-DV tapes.
No one ever complained of the quality, which was limited by the media rather than the software. OTOH, before MSP, I used linear editing, which was a pain and produced some abominable results, despite my best efforts.
Some competitive systems may offer more artistic gadgets, but these are not needed for industrial work.
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TVstudent
What do you mean by "professional editing"?
It usually means being paid for the work, so I can personally say that it is a professional editor.
It can do an awful lot - but I just use cuts and crossfades, I play around with the amplitude of the audio and occasionally fix the colour.
As far as I can tell, that's all possible in VideoStudio too, so that makes VS a professional editor I suppose.
It usually means being paid for the work, so I can personally say that it is a professional editor.
It can do an awful lot - but I just use cuts and crossfades, I play around with the amplitude of the audio and occasionally fix the colour.
As far as I can tell, that's all possible in VideoStudio too, so that makes VS a professional editor I suppose.
Semantics!
No software is professional. Only the user is, if his use of it is part of his mainstream source of revenue. I considered I was a professional user because my use of it was an important part of the work I was doing, even though it was, in a way, incidental to the core business.
An events videographer, working full time, is a pro. But is an accountant moonlighting as a weekend wedding videographer and getting paid for it? I'd call him a semi-pro, because it is not incidental to his core business of counting beans.
I have seen a photo taken with a pinhole shoebox camera used professionally, by a pro photographer. Was the cam a professional one? No, it was a tool he used to achieve a sellable artistic result. So the editor is a tool, whether it be MSP, VS or WMM, for that matter. I used MSP because it offered more flexibility than VS, as my tool and it cost what my company could afford.
No software is professional. Only the user is, if his use of it is part of his mainstream source of revenue. I considered I was a professional user because my use of it was an important part of the work I was doing, even though it was, in a way, incidental to the core business.
An events videographer, working full time, is a pro. But is an accountant moonlighting as a weekend wedding videographer and getting paid for it? I'd call him a semi-pro, because it is not incidental to his core business of counting beans.
I have seen a photo taken with a pinhole shoebox camera used professionally, by a pro photographer. Was the cam a professional one? No, it was a tool he used to achieve a sellable artistic result. So the editor is a tool, whether it be MSP, VS or WMM, for that matter. I used MSP because it offered more flexibility than VS, as my tool and it cost what my company could afford.
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I'm still learning on all this and I'm interested in this thread because I'm making a pilot video for a potential sponsor.
In that respect I agree with Devil: what I'm trying to do is not going to be core business and I have to make a cost/ value judgement for business reasons. ULead's software works well for me both in terms of feel/ layout when editing and what the finished product looks like (remembering of course the inescapable basic fact that final output is dependant on the original input, which is limited by both the camera equipment and filming).
More generally, I suppose 2 things come to mind - first, as my dad says, the tools are only as good as the workman using them. An able person could use MSP and make the final product look like it was taken from a TV braodcast programme. Another could make the same footage look like its been edited with a chainsaw and cellotape!
Second, I think the original question may have been aimed at whether MSP is good enough for 'broadcast' quality (I know there's another debate on what broadcast quality actually means) and whether production companies making programmes for the BBC (or the BBC itself), for instance, would use it.
That I don't know but I suspect companies making programmes on such a commercial basis would maybe spend hundreds of thousands or more on custom built software and even more on the equipment capturing footage. If my suspicions are correct, it is unlikely that you could buy such software anyway and if you could, it would be very expensive unless you were setting up a full time production company and had that kind of money to invest.
I stand ready to be shot down in flames.
In that respect I agree with Devil: what I'm trying to do is not going to be core business and I have to make a cost/ value judgement for business reasons. ULead's software works well for me both in terms of feel/ layout when editing and what the finished product looks like (remembering of course the inescapable basic fact that final output is dependant on the original input, which is limited by both the camera equipment and filming).
More generally, I suppose 2 things come to mind - first, as my dad says, the tools are only as good as the workman using them. An able person could use MSP and make the final product look like it was taken from a TV braodcast programme. Another could make the same footage look like its been edited with a chainsaw and cellotape!
Second, I think the original question may have been aimed at whether MSP is good enough for 'broadcast' quality (I know there's another debate on what broadcast quality actually means) and whether production companies making programmes for the BBC (or the BBC itself), for instance, would use it.
That I don't know but I suspect companies making programmes on such a commercial basis would maybe spend hundreds of thousands or more on custom built software and even more on the equipment capturing footage. If my suspicions are correct, it is unlikely that you could buy such software anyway and if you could, it would be very expensive unless you were setting up a full time production company and had that kind of money to invest.
I stand ready to be shot down in flames.
Thanks & regards.
Gra
MSP8 (SP1), VS8, C3DPS, MF6+, DAZ Studio, Poser 6, Nero 6, Audacity, Photoshop 7.0
You can see a couple of my movies at [url]http://www.youtube.com/glaustin[/url]
Gra
MSP8 (SP1), VS8, C3DPS, MF6+, DAZ Studio, Poser 6, Nero 6, Audacity, Photoshop 7.0
You can see a couple of my movies at [url]http://www.youtube.com/glaustin[/url]
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Tv Student asked
I wanted to ask your opinions.. whether you think it's more for home use or if you think that MediaStudio is on the level for professional editing.
I agree with Gra and Devil's comments above.
I've been using MSP since version 6. I would place it well above the home use level. As mentioned above it is the personal skills of the operator. MSP is capable in the hands of a compentant person to produce work to a very high level.
MSP8 and Video Graphics Lab is a very powerful package
If Tv Student is setting themselves up as a production house and on a tight budget you will be hard pressed to find anything better for your outlay. If you wish to find employment elsewhere, research what editors are using in the production houses in your area and learn them.
I have been self employed in the graphics industry for 27yrs. As a side line I have been shooting and editing music videos for about six years all edited on MSP and have received many favourable comments. I have had several broadcast, and any adverse comments I've had have been directed at my shooting, or editing skills. Not the software I use.
I have used only Premiere 5.1 , Premiere Pro, AfterEffects, MSP 6, MSP 7
and have MSP 8 on trial.
In my opinion I prefer MSP by far. I use it has my No1 editing tool.
Get a trial version of MSP8 and Video Graphics Lab and have fun.
I wanted to ask your opinions.. whether you think it's more for home use or if you think that MediaStudio is on the level for professional editing.
I agree with Gra and Devil's comments above.
I've been using MSP since version 6. I would place it well above the home use level. As mentioned above it is the personal skills of the operator. MSP is capable in the hands of a compentant person to produce work to a very high level.
MSP8 and Video Graphics Lab is a very powerful package
If Tv Student is setting themselves up as a production house and on a tight budget you will be hard pressed to find anything better for your outlay. If you wish to find employment elsewhere, research what editors are using in the production houses in your area and learn them.
I have been self employed in the graphics industry for 27yrs. As a side line I have been shooting and editing music videos for about six years all edited on MSP and have received many favourable comments. I have had several broadcast, and any adverse comments I've had have been directed at my shooting, or editing skills. Not the software I use.
I have used only Premiere 5.1 , Premiere Pro, AfterEffects, MSP 6, MSP 7
and have MSP 8 on trial.
In my opinion I prefer MSP by far. I use it has my No1 editing tool.
Get a trial version of MSP8 and Video Graphics Lab and have fun.