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DJS2

Post by DJS2 »

i got it to a .wmv but i still get the same problem. Could it be the size of the video? (it is maximum size, full screen) I think if i made the whole video a smaller size, and than tried to convert it to .wmv or .avi and compressed it it would be better for editing.
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

I don't think that too many people would be patient enough to wait for that thing to load, to be honest, especially nobody with dial up.

How big, in MB or :shock: GB :shock: are these files?

And, why exactly, do you want to compress these prior to editing? You should do all your editing before you compress them to the final size.

Are you remotely aware what it takes to stream video from the net?
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Post by lancecarr »

DJS2 I have to reiterate what Heinz is saying here and what I said in the previous post.
By converting to WMV you ARE compressing heavily. If you want to edit then you DO NOT want to compress. My idea was to CONVERT to a relatively losseless format that VS will allow you to edit.
I figured DV avi would be your best shot using VS.
If you can successfully CONVERT to that format, then you can edit.
After you have edited you can take the final product and compress to WMV for posting on the net.
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Post by heinz-oz »

@lancecarr

I admire your perseverance. I think the OP is already in strife because the frame rate, frame size and file format are incompatible and VS needs to convert, which means re-render, to a suitable format. The problem already starts there.

Personally, I think, something else than VS is needed to do what DJS2 wants to do.

At the bare minimum, he would need a means to convert whatever he gets from his FRAPS to some useful video format, like DV-AVI but in a frame size and frame rate compatible with VS.
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Post by THoff »

I'm kinda late to the party, but let me tell you what I do.

I use FRAPS as well on occasion to record in-game movies (see http://www.misterfrag.com//OFP/ConvoyAttack.wmv for an old example).

What I do is play the game at twice the target resolution, and I instruct FRAPS to capture at half resolution. If I target the web, I play at 1280x960, when I want to put video on DVD (I've done that), I play at 1440x960. The latter is a custom resolution I have defined for the video card that is not directly supported by the LCD, so the video card can either have the display scale it, or center it on the screen (surrounded by a black frame).

The FRAPS codec is lossless, so you wind up with great quality if you don't wind up having to rescale it -- you just transcode to MPEG.
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Post by lancecarr »

Heinz-Oz, yeah I was kinda going with the "throw it against the wall an see what sticks" theory!
I think we should let Torsten take it!
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Post by DJS2 »

THoff wrote:What I do is play the game at twice the target resolution, and I instruct FRAPS to capture at half resolution. If I target the web, I play at 1280x960
im new to video editing and everything so sorry if i ask stupid questions. By instructing fraps to capture at half resolution u are talking about fps, right? I kinda get what ur saying, but what about editing?

I want to capture ingame, take the in game video and edit it (effects like slow motion and also add title/credits and a few transitions) but whenever i take the video i get with fraps it scrambles the text/picture of the video. The video i get from fraps is about 80mb. I have compressed .avi and .wmv videos using different codecs down to 1-5mbs of the same clip, yet when i put it in VS9, it still scrambles the text/picture just like it does. Sorry if im missing some of your help and instructions, i kinda need steps as im new to this.
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Post by THoff »

No, that's not what I was saying.

I'm capturing at 29.97fps (I'm in the US, which uses NTSC, in a PAL country you would select 25fps), and half the screen resolution. There is a checkbox labelled "Half Size" in the Video settings tab of FRAPS.

If I play with a in-game resolution if 1440x960 and capture at 29.97fps and half resolution, the captured AVI file matches NTSC DVD parameters exactly -- all I need to do is load the AVI file into Videostudio, and use Share -> Create Video File to output an MPEG file. There is no resizing, no macroblocking, no artifacts.
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