Project Too Large To Save To Harddisc

dudeamiugly · Post by **dudeamiugly** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:32 pm

Hey im a newbie here and iw as wondering if anyone had any advice about saving a project to my harddisc!

i have a made a project which is 13gb big and i want to save it to my harddisc to use a different program to compress it to a 4.7gb dvd (ive done this before but i was using nero last time)

when i try and click burn (after selecting destination folder) i get a erro message saying that the project is too large to burn!

ARG!

please help!

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:12 pm

Check http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=12530

Hope this helps.

H.T.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:54 pm

Also please check out the 7th post down here:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=11923

Steve J

dudeamiugly · Post by **dudeamiugly** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:44 pm

thansk for the links but i ahve already tried all of this and it still wont fit to a size that will elt me save to my harddisc! i have updated to the latest version of the proram to see if this fixed the problem but it did not!

any other ideas (like a patch or a "fix") would be welcome!

also any advice would be! lol

thanks!

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:18 pm

Is 13GB the DVD project size or the total size of the source files?

Make sure you have enough space in the working folder. To know how many space will be needed in your hard disk, check the Require space information in the Finish stage.

Hope this helps.

H.T.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:20 pm

dudeamiugly
Lets get back to basics.
1. Please complete your system specificactions in your user profile.
2. Please detail the source of your files, method of capture and settings employed, file type, bit rates, screen dimensions etc.
3. What did you do with those captured files, have you edited them in any way. If so have you exported that edited file into a DVD compliant format.
4. How Much hard drive space is there remaining on your system. How many hard drives. Which Hard drive are your system files and program files on. Which hard drives are your movie files on.
5. Which version of MovieFactory are you using. Is it a full version, trial version SE version or a componenet part of Media Studio 8?
6. Have you applied all necessary patches.

We need as much information from you as you are able to provide so that we are then able to respond with suggested remedies to your problem.

Regards
Steve J

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:16 pm

One more thing. If you haven't got 13 GB

of free space on your HDD to save this project, how do you expect to be able to do anything with it after?

We do need your details as requested by Steve.

dudeamiugly · Post by **dudeamiugly** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:39 am

sorry i made a mistake, the entire project is actualyy 15gb when it is finished, the files are all in XvID (they take up less room on my hard drive when they are XviD!) So the files are .avi files

i have 48.9 gb free on harddisk, ulead says i need to have 36.37gb free ( it think tahts ais a a bit over teh top but i do have it!)

i am running on XP home SP2
AMD Atholon 64 3700+
1GB of kingten RAM
120GB SATA Harddrive
i thnk that will be all the info you need!

i am using a full version of ULead Movie factory 4 which i have updated to 4.2 (it think!)

this is very strange becuase i appear to have all ofthe right options and enough space!

thanks!

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:50 am

Enough space you say

49 GB?

I'm afraid not. When dealing with video, you need space, lots of it.

Just think about it, your OS needs some free space to swap memory content to and fro, your program needs room for the temp and preview files, to use a video editor to manipulate any video file, you need at least twice the size of your video file in contiguous disk space, not fragmented all over your disk.

When looking at some of the more experienced user around the forum and the systems they use, why do you think we all got oodles of hard disk space? We are not megalomaniacs, at least not all

, and don’t invest in hard disks as a hobby

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:27 am

heinz-oz wrote:and don’t invest in hard disks as a hobby

I think Steve does, he says he has a drawer full of them

Ron P..

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:07 am

dudeamiugly wrote:sorry i made a mistake, the entire project is actualyy 15gb when it is finished, the files are all in XvID (they take up less room on my hard drive when they are XviD!) So the files are .avi files
......

Aha there is the problem!!

Firstly please read my post describing MPEG files and AVI files here:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=12118

Now the thing that is confusing to most users are the generic terms MPEG and AVI. Generally speaking AVI is a lossless format, but that is only a generalisation.

MPEG4 / Xvid / DivX are all very similar and for all intents and purposes could be described as being the same. They are an extremely highly compressed format but retain a very high quality and are perhaps the best formats to use if you want to share videos over the internet.

They are not designed to be played in a standard standalone DVD player though a few are now starting to creep into the consumer market.

Normal DVD files are made up of VOB files which are in fact MPEG2 files but they also contain a bit more information, this is why simply renaming VOB to MPG generally speaking enables you to use the VOB as a standard MPEG.

an example of how compressed DivX etc are can be seen in a one hour TV episode downloaded from the internet - it will be approx 360MB.
If you now convert that into a standard MPEG2 it will now increase in size to something like twice that size perhaps 800MB - and don't forget this is only MPEG2 which is also regarding as a highly compressed format.

Had the original DivX file been converted to AVI file type DV type 1 then it would have increased to something like 13GB file size.

What you need to take into account is how long is the video in time.
At best quality aim to place about 1 hour onto a 4.3 GB DVD disk.
You can squeeze up to about 3 hours at VHS quality.

I have placed a table of suggested quality settings here:
7th post down
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=11923

Regards
Steve J

dudeamiugly · Post by **dudeamiugly** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:35 pm

hey guys! thansk fot he info about the .avi files!

i now have 69.15 gb free on my harddisc, Ulead says i need only 36.37 gb but it still wont work! i get the same error "Project Content Over Limitation!"

any other ideas? - i ahve almost double the space that Ulead says i need so i dont understand why ots not working! if i need to create any more space please can you recommend teh amount of space!

thanks!

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:54 pm

Hi,

Instead of creating the harddisk image or dvd folders use the EXPORT feature of MF4 to create your mpeg2 file(s). Their isn't a limitation on that.
Then you can use Nero Recode or Shrink to collaspe the mpeg2 file down to dvd size.
Then after shrinking the video import it into a new project as a compliant file (HA) and create the 4.370 disk.

Why don't you simply export the video at the correct bit-rates to fit on a dvd?
After you shrink a video it's not technically compliant you know. It's the same as a "Mis-Labeled Box" except it's a "Mis-Labeled Video".

MD

dudeamiugly · Post by **dudeamiugly** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:44 pm

cheers for teh tip about teh export feature i just have a few probs with it.........1.) where is it (sorry im a newbie)
2.) does it keep all of the menues
3.) does it put the files into .vob and the menues in .ifo (liek a full dvd would be like)

cheers! you saving my behind!

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:13 am

I must admit its a bit of a hidden function that most people probably don't even realise exists.

From the opening screen where you select "New project"
Start new project and click next.
Add Media and import a video file.
This is now on the timeline at the bottom of the screen.
Clcik that clip once so that it is in the selected state.
Immediately to the left of that first clip are 4 icons, the second one up from the bottom is Export Selected clips (Or you can use Alt-K)

This will enable you to export the clip as a DVD compliant MPEG2 file.

Steve J