WARNING on UPGRADE MF4 to MF5

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Re: WARNING on UPGRADE MF4 to MF5

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htchien wrote: Maybe my understanding of System Restore is wrong, but if what you said is true then MF4 should not have problems because all the files and registry settings are been restored. Maybe System Restore does not restore all files?

Best regards,
H.T.
H.T., I guess it must not, or I wouldn't have had the problem. That's why I'm going to go belt-and-suspenders and do a separate registry backup as well. Before XP came out, with the restore function, I always did registry backups before installing new programs (that was with Win 2000). So now I'll combine methods.

I'll go the Lenovo site and see if there are updated drivers for the capture card. Don't know why I didn't think of that sooner.

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Re: WARNING on UPGRADE MF4 to MF5

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htchien wrote: Personally I would think it's a driver issue. Have you contacted IBM to see if any updated driver?
Best regards,
H.T.
H.T.,

I just went to the Lenovo site. No capture card drivers listed, just audio (Sound Max) and video (ATI). If the capture driver is part of the ATI system, I have the latest version of that installed. If it's something separate, they don't offer updated drivers. I think it's part of the ATI, because I recall seeing something flashing by during a reinstallation of the system I did in October, that referred to capturing.

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Post by maddrummer3301 »

snoops,

I just discovered that myself.
Whatever you set the bitrate at under the compression settings ends up being the Max_Bit_Rate and the Average_Bit_Rate is much lower than that setting.

If you manually set the bitrate while in the "Advanced Screen" and return
back to the compression tab one can see the bit rate is Higher than what you set in the advanced tab.

Actually, the encoding is similar to the Sony Dvd Recorder I have.

This thread is way off topic so I'm starting a new thread with this posting.
Answer to the new thread ok because this ones alittle of the topic of the original post.
I'm burning a dvd with the different encoder settings now to a dvd-rw to see how the video looks.

New post on this subject to respond to:

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 7645#57645

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Re: WARNING on UPGRADE MF4 to MF5

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nyco_ork wrote:H.T.,

I just went to the Lenovo site. No capture card drivers listed, just audio (Sound Max) and video (ATI). If the capture driver is part of the ATI system, I have the latest version of that installed. If it's something separate, they don't offer updated drivers. I think it's part of the ATI, because I recall seeing something flashing by during a reinstallation of the system I did in October, that referred to capturing.

R
I think you need to ask Lenovo to make sure if the capture driver is part of the ATi system and if they will have an update driver for it. If they will not have one, then you can only use the capture program which works now.

The issue of the mobile/notebook system is, you might need to wait for the driver udpates for a very long time (or you will never have any driver updates)....

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Description of System Restore

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System Restore
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

System Restore is a component of Microsoft's Windows ME and Windows XP Professional operating systems that allows for the rolling back of system files, registry keys, installed programs, etc., to a previous state in the event of a failure.

Overview System Restore in Windows XP.

System Restore is accessed via the Start menu, in Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Restore. From there, the user may either create a new restore point manually, roll back to an existing restore point, or change the System Restore configuration.

System Restore does not affect any of the user's files. Files with certain executable extensions are restored and new folders removed, but items in the My Documents folders are always left untouched. Microsoft recommends that if a user is unsure as to whether their files will be affected by System Restore, that they should keep those files under My Documents.

New Restore points are automatically created:

* when a piece of software is installed
* when Windows Update installs new updates to Windows
* when the user installs a driver that is not digitally signed by Windows Hardware Quality Labs
* every 24 hours of computer use (10 hours in Windows ME), or every 24 hours of calendar time, whichever happens first
* when the computer boots after being off for more than 24 hours
* when the user requests it

System Restore can be configured to use up to a maximum of 12% of hard drive space. Old restore points are discarded in order to keep drive usage within the specified amount. For many users, this can provide restore points covering the past several weeks. Users concerned with performance or space usage can also opt to disable System Restore entirely.

In Windows Vista, System Restore has been renamed to System Protection, and features an improved interface.
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Hi,
The only thing that's reliable to save program configuration settings is a
program that can take a snapshot of the drive. (Ghost).
System restore is nice for system files.

I've been using/testing a program that once you have windows setup any changes to the 3 main directories that windows uses are written to a set of different files. Similar to mirroring.
The system always boots to the original snapshot of windows.
It's the same as running from a ROM chipset.
If you install a program to test it and reboot the programs not there.
If you remove any programs they are back when you re-boot.
If you delete any critical files, reboot and back.
You can get a virus, but after re-booting it's history.
MS can do it. But, that's not profitable. No reason to upgrade to the next OP system then.

Someday I'll find that bug this person is experiencing. It happens on my system also with the ATI drivers.
You can try deleting the program configuration files under the USER directory. That's the same almost as running the program for the first time as a user.
Note: Not the "All Users" directory. The <user_name directory>
ex: c:\Documents & Settings\admin\Application Data\Ulead etc etc etc.

Note: MF5 new release, use Constant Bit Rate for SD encoding. Variable is weird.

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Hi MD,

There you go keeping secrets again.. :shock:

I'll bet you're going to keep us guessing at what this program is?...:) That looks like one I'd like to have, but as usual the price tag is probably out of my reach right now. Any program that works like that has got to be expensive...

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He is refering to Norton Ghost
Link
£39.99 (GBP)

There are a number of similar programs about.
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

Hi,

Before using Norton Ghost you have to boot from the Ghost CD and make sure it will work with your system. If you just install it and expect it to work that may not happen. Especially if the partition tables aren't up to snuff etc.
The instuctions with Ghost tell you what to do. It's important to follow those instructions because if the boot-up CD doesn't work then the restore process will not work either.

If the testing phase of Norton Ghost doesn't work then find out why before installing it or your system will be inoperable.

There are many ways to keep a backup system. I also use Steve's suggestion and have a few multi-boot configurations. I like to boot to another partition/operating system and backup the good working partition. This is easy because the files aren't locked. Usually I backup to a NTFS drive and assign the directory that's backing up as compressed. Before backup up the good windows system I clean it up by removing all the temp files, recent links & all network cache. You can delete the complete "temporary internet files" folder because whenever the program runs it will create a new one. MS Explorer, Opera or Firefox will all re-create the new cache directory you have assigned in the setup parameters when they execute. So I only backup the 3 important directories for windows. That's my manual method of backing up.

There are a few of other programs in use by programmers to take snapshots of the programs while running and de-bugging. I think the easiest to use is Ghost because you can always pull the good configuration on a partition and re-boot to it's clone. Actually the program Ghost will do what I am doing manually.

It's a shame we have to do this with windows. My son hasn't rebooted his MAC in 4 months. I tell him he should anyway. Just to clean up the temp files but the MAC runs a background process that purges the system. MAC's also have their flaws. Like expensive software. I'm hoping that with MAC now using the Intel processor that many windows x86 programmers can port their code to the new MAC's. This will lower the software prices for mac's. I can't say that Mac's are better. They simply have better fault protection for the software programs because they are running a unix based kernel. All software programs have flaws & bugs. I find Mac's on the boring side. I still like the old command prompt interface etc. Windows systems are inexpensive. It's nice to go to a local store, purchase something and install it. (reboot of course :( )

There is also one important point when installing a multi-boot system with XP. You should boot from the CD and install from the CD. If you launch a new/additional installtiion of XP from within an operating system the program creates a link to the system your in under your user's directory. When you boot to the other operating system those files are locked and you can't backup the system completely because those users files are locked. So when you boot to the new/other system it has the files on the old/other system locked because you installed it by running setup from within another op system. One needs to boot from the CD for a completely isolated new multi-boot op system.

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Post by ruggy1 »

What on earth are you guys chattering on about? The only useful thing I have picked up is that MPEG compression in MF5 is worse than MF4. Is this the sum total of this post? Is it correct? I will continue to use MF4 until someone tells me MF5 is better! (or until I get a HD DV tape to process). Thanks
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Post by sjj1805 »

The one thing I have noticed in MF5 that is an improvement over all previous Ulead products is the DVD Menu Transitions.
Even if you dont have HD or Blue Ray etc it's worth the small cost of upgrading for that function.
OK you can use the workround in my tutorial for DVD Workshop 2
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=9968
However a built in function is quicker and easier.


Of course if they ever bring out Workshop 3 we hope this transition module will be included.
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Quality Difference between 4 and 5

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To Madrunner:

Yes, there are two different topics going on...which makes it difficult to respond to the correct post. Thanks for going to so much trouble to duplicate what I was experiencing. I did notice the worst degradation when the camera was panning or the subjects were moving quite a bit, but you went to the trouble to actually see what was happening. I don't think I have the tools available that you do to test what is happening, but I would definitely hesitate to buy the new version when it creates a jerky video, no matter how many new features might be available.

By the way, I have been experimenting with Roxio's newest addition, ver.8, and ULead still has them beat by a mile. They do have more applications in their suite, and I wish ULead could do something like they've done and include the Video editing software in the suite with the DVD software. But their program is so much slower, so much more difficult to use, and still doesn't have the ability to edit out various parts of a video. I've tired lots of different video and DVD editing software (trial versions) and none come close to ULead at this point. However, I can't say much for version 5 unless they clear up this problem.
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

JoReneA,

Change the MF5 encoder to "Constant Bit Rate" for proper encoding.

Click on the GEAR Icon (bottom of page) then -> "Change MPEG Settins" -> "Customize"

Under the "Compression" tab you can change from variable bit rate to constant bit rate. Then in the output/burning module the program will use those settings to create the dvd. The default setting is variable bit rate.
That is the bug, no matter what you set it at above 4200 the bit-rate ends up being 4200.

I've been using between 6000 to 8000kbs with Dolby Audio.
I also use Constant bit rate alot because my dvd's of home movies are only 1 hour long Maximum. (Unless you want to put your company to sleep).

Very nice results with my dvd's using MF5 and "constant bit-rate"

MD
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