Crashing at 99% rendering to AVI with VS9

thad · Post by **thad** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:57 am

I got the error at 99% again by using the 2 AVI files. I guess this will be a 2 DVD project. I will say that I'm seriously considering another software for my video editing. This is unacceptable in my opinion. I need a reliable product and VS9 is becoming less desirable to work with each time this happens.

Thank you all for your help!

Thad

PeterMilliken · Post by **PeterMilliken** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:59 pm

Hi Thad,

PowerDirector 5 received a higher rating in this review (http://video-editing-software-review.toptenreviews.com/) than VS 9 - you can "try before you buy" with this product as well, so perhaps give it a try.

But back to your problem. When you say "using 2 AVI files" - is that it? The entire project? Two AVI files joined together? What happened when you tried the 1/2'ing and then 1/2'ing again technique? Did you at any stage reach a point where you could successfully render a project?

I realise (and agree!) you shouldn't have to do this - VS should work correctly, but the alternative is another product (and it appears that VS has the best support forum - as opposed to the best technical support, which pretty much sucks), so that might or might not be such a good idea.

Peter

thad · Post by **thad** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:26 am

PeterMilliken wrote:Hi Thad,
But back to your problem. When you say "using 2 AVI files" - is that it? The entire project? Two AVI files joined together? What happened when you tried the 1/2'ing and then 1/2'ing again technique? Did you at any stage reach a point where you could successfully render a project?

Maybe you missed my last post on the first page. I was able to split the entire project into 2 files and they both rendered fine. The plan was for one of them to not render...and I would split that in 2, etc. Then I tried to create a single AVI from the 2 that I created. The rendering failed at 99%.

To finish the project, I used both halves of videos and joined them in my authoring software. The ending of the first and the start of the second used a fade to black transition, and everything worked fine. It finished as 1 DVD.

PeterMilliken wrote:I realise (and agree!) you shouldn't have to do this - VS should work correctly, but the alternative is another product (and it appears that VS has the best support forum - as opposed to the best technical support, which pretty much sucks), so that might or might not be such a good idea.

You make a very good point here. And, I've already paid for the software! If I know the limitations of the software, I can work around them with the help of this forum. I'm still new enough that I don't know all the limitations. When everything works, I LOVE VS9. It's easy, intuitive, and the price isn't a ripoff. I think I've just overcome one hurdle. On to my next project!

I truly appreciate your help on this, Peter. Thanks to all who contributed!

Thad

PeterMilliken · Post by **PeterMilliken** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:38 am

thad wrote:Maybe you missed my last post on the first page. I was able to split the entire project into 2 files and they both rendered fine. The plan was for one of them to not render...and I would split that in 2, etc. Then I tried to create a single AVI from the 2 that I created. The rendering failed at 99%.

To finish the project, I used both halves of videos and joined them in my authoring software. The ending of the first and the start of the second used a fade to black transition, and everything worked fine. It finished as 1 DVD.

Thad

My apologies Thad - I did miss your earlier post. What you experienced ties in with my opinion of the problem i.e. there is "something" in the video sequence/stream that causes VS X to have a hernia - so if you can isolate the area and make almost any change then you should (and obviously have!) get around the problem. I hope your solution of a fade "fitted" into the video without being obtrusive - I wonder whether just the deletion of a single frame would also have "worked"? I'll try this next time I hit the problem...

Anyway, no point spending more time on it (rendering is such a frustrating activity when you don't know what the result will be

). It's good to hear you are up and going onto the next project.

Lots of luck,
Peter

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:07 am

Thad,
I can't figure out why you are trying to create AVI(DV) files if you are trying to burn a DVD... Just for grins, render an Mpeg2 file from EACH of your AVI(DV) files and join them in the Burn module, using the Add Video File control.

PeterMilliken · Post by **PeterMilliken** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:17 am

John,

This would almost certainly work as well as I suspect that it is an issue with "joining" (for want of a better technical term

) two pieces of AVI at the time of render.

Have you ever experienced this problem? I am curious because I know you do all your editing/rendering using mpeg2 files rather than avi...

Perhaps the problem is created when two frames containing certain information are rendered, one after the other... It would be nice to determine the characteristics of the problem more acurately.

Peter

jchunter · Post by **jchunter** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:46 am

Peter,
I never experienced Thad's problem but I never tried to do what he was doing. If I had a slow computer, I would capture and edit Type 1 DV and then transcode to Mpeg2. I just do not see any point in creating an AVI(DV) video file from the edited project.

Ooops, I just rechecked and Thad captured Type 2 DV! This might be his problem... Somebody who has had problems with Type 2 should chime in here...

thad · Post by **thad** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:34 pm

John,

I use VS9 for editing only. I use CCE Basic for encoding and TDA for authoring.

As far as AVI type-1 or 2, I don't want to discount anything you say. But, if it's the AVI type that's causing my problem, what do you say about the other 100+ DVDs that I've made using the exact same process?

I was able to render an Mpeg-2 file with the offending file. I just didn't know what I was doing.

See one of my replies on the first page.

I'm going to switch over to AVI type-1 and see if makes a difference on future projects.

Thanks for your input.

Thad

thad · Post by **thad** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:49 pm

So far, I've done 3 projects with no problems using AVI type-1. I'm not convinced that my problem has been fixed since it's common to have a hanging issue on one project and then everything be fine for the next 20 projects. I *will* say that it increses my confidence with each trouble-free project.

Thad

Koz · Post by **Koz** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:14 pm

I was having exactly the same problem where some projects would crash at 99% when rendering to avi while rendering to mpeg worked without any problems. This happened with VS8 and continued with VS9 but not with VS7.

I even tried opening the VS9 projects in the trial of MSP8 and the same projects crashed in that too at 99%.

It was getting so frustrating that I was getting ready to switch to other software until it was suggested to me to try changing the settings to Type 1 and I've had no problems since, with every project that had given me problems now rendering properly.

Koz