Finished Video File Size?????

cottage · Post by **cottage** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:22 pm

I'm having a little trouble with my finished video file size and am unable to determine the problem.

- My original material was recorded on my DVD-R with the compression set to "SP" (2 hours of video on a 4.7GB DVD).
- I edited this material down to 3.64GB ( 1 hr 52 minutes in 30 clips)
- When I try to burn this project to DVD, VS tells me that I need 8.59 GB.

-As a test, I created the same project (using the same clips) in TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 and the resulting file size was less than 4.0 GB and it easily burned to a single layer DVD.

I'm guessing that VS is trying to burn the video in normal DVD compression (1 hour on a 4.7 GB DVD). However, I can't see any option in any "Preference" or "Properties" menu that will enable me to burn the material in it's original compression.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

cottage · Post by **cottage** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:30 pm

Oops! I think that I just found the place to change the option.

The little cog at the bottom left of the "Create Disc" window. It is called "Project Settings".

I guess that it was a little too obscure for this simple mind.

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth!

Doverwhite · Post by **Doverwhite** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:44 pm

I had same problem and found similar answer but...

First I tried fit and burn which just crashes. Ulead have acknowledged this as a problem.

So I also looked at project settings and was able to select conditions to get a burn on a SL DVD.

However the resultant quality was atrocious, if I have to make a comparison probably worse than VHS LP

I edited 2.5 hours of SP footage down to 1 hr 50 mins and expected SP quality out.

The only way I found of getting a reasonable quality was to convert the project mpeg to a Video_TS folder and compress using DVDShrink and save the result as an ISO file and burn using DVDDecrypter. However the result although better is still not as good as the SP footage I captured. Why?

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:54 am

Hi Doverwhite

Use a bit-rate calculator to estimate your settings.

http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html

http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

As you know your final length is 1hr 50 min use this figure to calculate the rate.

Now capture your footage using this bit rate. About 4000 kbps should provide 2 hrs of video at Vhs quality.

Your project settings should be the same as your video clip.
After you have edited your project Share Create Video File, use ‘same as project settings’
The resultant file should be used to burn a disc. Make sure your project settings match your video file properties.

Read the recommended procedure :-
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... bb4ae9f225

and the useful links below

Trevor

cottage · Post by **cottage** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:19 pm

Doverwhite wrote:I had same problem and found similar answer but...

First I tried fit and burn which just crashes. Ulead have acknowledged this as a problem.

I tried the same thing with the same result. In addition, my previous attempts had screwed up so many DVD-R discs that I switched to a DVD-RW disc before trying this option. When it crashed my system, it also made the DVD-RW disc unreadable. No matter what I did, I couldn't erase the disc - My system would not recognize that there was a disc in the DVD drive! It was trashed! WOW!

trevor andrew wrote:
Your project settings should be the same as your video clip.
After you have edited your project Share Create Video File, use ‘same as project settings’
The resultant file should be used to burn a disc. Make sure your project settings match your video file properties.

Trevor... After I couldn't find the original setting, I'm hesitant to ask but I can't find the setting that says ‘same as project settings’. I saw an option called 'Don't convert compliant MPEG files'. I tried this on a sample clip of 42MB. The resultant file size was 148 MB! Is there a setting with this name or do you mean for us to select a setting that is the same as our original project?

Maybe I'm simple minded but it would seem logical that the default setting would be to produce a final video with the same compression rate as the original clip. I also have a much simpler program called TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 and this is what it does. However, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles that are included in VS.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:53 pm

Hi

Please read the recommended procedure mentioned earlier.

Ok

1 / We capture our video footage to Dv-Avi or Mpeg2
2 / our project properties are changed to match the video file
3 / we edit our project
4 / we convert our project to a Dvd compatible file.

If you captured to Mpeg then you can Share Create Video file –Same as Project Settings or use the ‘Custom’ options.

If you captured to Dv-avi then use either the Pal-Dvd template or use the ‘Custom’option to input your properties.

Typically for Pal:-

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: 6000 kbps ************
Audio data rate: 256 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio, 48 KHz, 2/0(L,R)

Bit rate guide
8000 kbps for 60 minutes of video is high quality dvd.
6000 kbps for 90 minutes of very good quality dvd
4000 kbps for 120 minutes of good Vhs quality

Use the Tools-Make Movie Manager to produce your own templates, these will show in the Create Video File window

Hope this helps

Trevor

cottage · Post by **cottage** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:47 pm

Thanks Trevor,

I had tried to use VS9 intuitively. (I do a little software and Web site design and I firmly believe that if a program or site is not intuitive, then it is no good!) As pointed out in the link that you posted, this can and did get me into a lot of trouble with VS9. I spent over 2 weeks working on my first video project in VS9 before I got a successful DVD. In the process, I destroyed about 15 DVD-R and 2 DVD-RW discs.

I have used and really like TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 because it is very easy and intuitive. However, it is too simple for a sophisticated project. Unless I can find another Video editing/authoring program that is both intuitive and powerful, your information will be a life saver in helping me use VS9.

Thanks again,
cottage