MSP8 - Unacceptable Behavior

[Terry Stetler]

And may I add that there are a whole lot more drives that have sector & surface errors than there are users who know about them. I've had brand new drives come riddled with 'em.

[Devil]

That it crashed and burned my external drive is probably related to write speeds, according to my techy flatmate, cause the write speed for an external hard drive is slower than an internal one and so apparantly you shouldn't use them for live stuff or something.

I suggest you get a new techy flatmate. Yes, external disks can be the cause of many problems with video, such as missing frames, especially USB2 types and in particular if you have other USB devices connected, such as mouse, keyboard, scanner, printer, webcam etc. Even IEEE-1349 types are OK on condition ONLY if you are doing one operation at a time (e.g., if you are transferring DV from a cam to an external drive, that is two operations). But you complain about things happening to dvp files and these are not video files, but simple, small data files. In any case, even if the drive buffer cannot cope with video files, there is no way it can fry the drive. Corrupt the file, yes, but that is all.

IMHO, the correct way of using external drives for video work is to do ALL the actual work on SATA or IDE internal drives. When you have finished, you can clear all the space by moving the files to the external drive. The next time you wish to work on them, copy them back to the internal drive (with the same directory structure as before) and so on. That way there is no risk of the external drives tripping over themselves.

Right, that is one potential cause for your problem but there are others. For example, you simply do not have sufficient resources available. Because you have not filled in your profile as requested, we don't have a clue how we can help you. However, if you do a search through this board, you will find an infinity of advice about how just about anything can interfere with video work. The pundits, correctly, suggest a dedicated computer, not connected to the internet, no resident utilities, tuned for the work in hand. Of course, this is not always practicable, so the next best thing is dual booting, with one boot reserved for only video work (your techy flatmate will advise you if this is getting beyond you).

However, I do have one admonition: never post the same problem in two threads here.

[marysia]

It's really irrelevant as after what I've read here of other people's problems and what happened to me the chance of me using ulead ever again is about zero.

The software tripping over and creating the corrupt files everyone else is having problems with is what messed up the external drive, in my opinion. I don't think it fried the drive, I think it created a write error related to the speed it can write to the external drive that messed up the indexing system somehow. Easily fixed with a format, but that will erase all my files, so I'll get someone with the right software to recover what isn't corrupt and then reformat it.

And I'll use Avid in the future. Because drives completely aside, I don't want a program that makes your project files unreadable when it crashes.

[Devil]

Well, as you obviously know better than those who try to help you, I wish you luck with Avid. What will you do when it crashes?

[zzstudio]

a NLE that can’t open a file that it created. Unacceptable!

Ok, in MSP7 -- just once a dvp file got corrupted on me -- I think this can happen anytime but its rare.

Solution: just one way to assure you dont lose hrs & hrs of work, go to where you save your dvp and copy it with a new file name, I always do this working on a biggie, if needed copy several times to back up your work - its not much trouble for the safety of the effort you made.

[zzstudio]

Thanks for clearing that point up, perhaps I am just getting old and edgy

recall not long ago you were labled "The Old Grump" yes?

Okay I see we agreed, I should have read the whole thread

I only saw this corrupt file in MSP7, just once - it was enough to get me
in "workaround mode", but then again thats a natural state to be in working around computers.

Primekid I agree with what you say too - but is there any software thats not got bugs in it? I havent found it yet but will let you know if I do. Ulead is ok for the money.

[zzstudio]

[quote="Terry Stetler"]I think you may be putting the cart before the horse. It's far more likely that a fault in the HDD was causing the software problems than vice-versa.
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Good call - I just had the problem once, coulda been the HDD, yep.

but MSP7 isnt perfect software either, its crashed here and there but
I am majestically happy with it, for the $ it cant be beat IMHO.