Smart rendering renders wrong file

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Helge
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Smart rendering renders wrong file

Post by Helge »

I just experianced a curious behaviour:
I have two versions of a very simple project. In this project there is only a six second still image with an animated title above it. In one project the title is in German, in the other in Greek.
I had generated avi files from these projects some weeks ago, but now decided that I wanted mpeg files instead. So I opened first the project with the German title, set all create file options (dont know, why I have to tell every time that I want PAL and lower field first) and did a two pass encoding. Than I switched to the Greek project, was happy that MSP8 hadnt forgotten my rendering options and rendered also. To my surprise rendering was not only much faster, but showed two times the German title and after rendering a third time. Since I didnt belive my eyes I opened the resulting files with media player - both where German. Also surprising: the Greek - German version had 7 KB smaller filesize (4-pass encoding?).
I switched of smart rendering in the create file options and now I got my Greek title.
So be careful. Smart rendering might save a lot of time, but you can also loose a lot of time if you later figure out that the results are not as you wanted.
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

If you pay attention as to which files are actually selected for the smart render, the problem might not be there either. Then again, many of the "Smart" functions in a lot of Ulead programs have lately proven not to be all that smart either :roll:

It will all depend on how you have set up your clips. Are they independent projects or the same project with different settings to either show the greek or the german title?
Helge
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Post by Helge »

It are really independent projects. But the second was a "save as" copy of the first, and then just replaced the text of the title. All effect settings and so where unchanged.
Dont know, what MSP8 checks to see if it has a file allready rendered. If you had asked me before, I would had believed that it would be project specific. But it is obviously not so. This can sometimes also be an advantage. It seems at last, that only name of the video / image and perhaps the name of videos in the overlay tracks matter. Perhaps the effect had not happend if the title in the second project had started later. But the contents of the text is too much hidden for the comparer.
I dont consider this a serious bug, it was more funny :) . But in this case I saw it immedately. If it had happend after an hour of rendering a video and if I had noticed it only during showing a burned dvd to the family I would likely think different.
heinz-oz

Post by heinz-oz »

I don't think any editor would be smart enough to distinguish between greek or german in the title. If the length (duration) of the title is the same and there are no other distinguishing factors, I would kind of expect this behaviour, especially since both projects are based on the same source or rather one is a copy of the other.
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