PC to DV Problems

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:12 am

Hi, i make videos often. i usually make music videos so i mute all of the sounds and just put music up. but when i export to my mini dv camera, it has the original sounds and no music. how can i export it with music?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:44 am

Can you tell us what steps you take before you get to the point of export i.e. how do you capture your video, in what format, what do you do to it in the computer, what is the format of the added music, how exactly do you mute the original audio...? And then do you go to Share > Create Video File > DV to create a new file of video and new music or do you go straight from the project in the timeline to Share > Export? (I don't think you should be doing the latter.) If in fact you first produce a new DV file (as I think you should) does it seem to play OK in the computer i.e. no original audio? And I assume you export via Firewire to the camera? It might also be useful to know something about your computer and which version of Video Studio you are using...

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:08 pm

after i film the video. i capture it straight on ulead. then when i edit, i drag an mp3 into the music track. and as for the video muting, after i drag the video clip into the video track, click on the mute sign next to the volume. then before i export it, i create a dv video. i do export through a firewall. i am using an amd athlon xp 2200+ with 512 mb ram and a 60 gb hard drive. i have ulead videostudio 8.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:30 pm

But when you create the new DV video, before export, do you test it? Does the mute take effect at that stage?

The other thing you could do, of course, would be to remove the original sound track totally. I don't have VS 8 on my computer at the moment, but I think this is done in a similar way in VS9. With your original video in the timeline, and on the Edit page, there should be a 'Split Audio' command. When you use that, the original sound-track will appear in the upper audio track. You can then simply delete it, add your MP3, and then produce your new DV video for export.

You need also to be aware that some people have trouble with certain varieties of MP3 codecs. The LameMP3 codec appears to be one culprit (though others report no problems with it). Anyway, the usual problem that arises is that the new audio cannot be heard. The problem usually goes away if you convert the mp3 to .wav format.

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:22 am

yeah on vs8, you can't split the audio from the video. and did go to share/create sound and put the new sound in the video, but that didn't work.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:18 am

Sorry. I thought Share > Create Sound File would actually split off the original audio completely from the original video, rather than just creating a new audio file but leaving the original on the video. It has been quite some time since I have used VS8. (I am not sure, though, why you would have put the new audio file back into the video when the objective is to get rid of the original sound... EDIT: On second thoughts, I think you may have meant the new background music instead of the original audio in its new form...)

You still haven't said whether the new DV/AVI contains the original sound or not... pretty please...?

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:54 am

nope the DV AVI video doesn't have the original sound, just the new music that i put in. but then when i try to export it, it goes back to the original sound and there's no new music.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:03 am

When you go to export, have you cleared the timeline of your project? In other words, close the existing project and start a new one and try to export the new file then. That way there is no chance the program is 'accidentally' trying to export the old project rather than the new file....

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:47 am

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:48 am

I'm sorry but I am running out of ideas. Have you tried changing the mp3 to .wav format, as I suggested earlier?

But I just can't understand -- as I am sure you can't either! -- why a completely new DV/AVI file, which does not play (or even have) the original background audio) when exported should play audio which is (or should not be) on the file at all... I have done this same operation I don't know how many times using VS7 and 8, and never had any problem -- the only difference being that I almost always use .wav and not mp3 for both added music and voiceovers.

What is the source of your mp3s by the way? If you used Nero, for instance, it appears to use the Lame MP3 codec I mentioned earlier. And I for one cannot get MP3s produced in Nero to play back in, say, Windows Media Player, which has no difficulty playing all my mp3s created in Music Match Jukebox...

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:26 am

ya know, on the second thought, i haven't tried converting my mp3's to wavs yet. i thought you meant just go to share/create sound, because that turns it all into wavs. but i think i can try to use cool edit pro and just convert my mp3s to wavs. what type of wavs am i suppose to convert them to. there is DVI/IMA ADPCM or there is microsoft ADPCM or even Windows PCM

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:30 pm

Hi,
In order to export back to tape you need a ready dv.avi file that's
prepared.

You can export/save your original video without any audio to a separate file.

Load your video into the timeline.
Goto Share -> Create Video File -> Custom
SaveAs File Type = avi
Click on "Option"s
Under the General Tab you can select "Video Only"

Under Compression Settings click on the drop-down box and select either mode Exporting as DV-Type1 or DV-Type2
Then load that file in and add your audio tracks. Should be no need to convert them to wav unless VS has a problem with the MP3 codec you used to create them with.

Also don't get the "Clip" confused with the "Project" when they are highlighted. The "Clip" when highlighted (The text icons directly under the preview screen) plays the original Clip. When Project is highlighted then your editing changes are supposed to playback.

I also think there's an easier way to do it by clicking on the
audio track and on the top you can set the original track to zero level.
Then set the new audio track to 100%.

MD

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:14 pm

after i go to general and put it on video only, i go to the AVI tab, and under compression, there's DV video encoder type 1, dv video encoder type 2, mjpeg compressor, cinepak codec by radius, intel indeo(r) video r3.2, intel IYUV codec, microsoft RLE, Microsoft video 1, divx 5.2.1 codec, microsoft mpeg-4 video codect v1, mpeg-4 video codec v2, panasonic dv codec type 1, panasonic dv codec type 2. i have a panasonic mini dv camera by the way. i don't know which one of those to choose and even choosing one, i don't know where to put the song?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:09 am

You can only capture DV as Type 1 or 2. To export back to your camera, it would normally be the same type as you imported. Anyway, set it for Type 1.

As I read maddrummer's suggestion, your first produce a new DV video, without audio, by his method. Then you start a new project using that new DV, and add your audio as normally would, then once again produce a further new DV, and then export that one. But I could be mistaken...

legendofdespair · Post by **legendofdespair** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:29 am

it's working. thank you so much both of you. you both helped a lot and i learned a lot through the process. much appreciations.