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Widescreen problems

Post by gordon_fan_24 »

I have a DV video that was shot in 16:9, not the letterboxed 4:3 "fake" widescreen, but anamorphic 16:9. When I go to capture that footage, I changed the project properties to 16:9, but that still shows up anamorphic in the capture window. When I go to edit the 16:9 footage, VS9 shows me black bars on all 4 sides of the video, so its still anamorphic looking, only smaller.
I did a search and only found the similar problem with DVD cameras, not miniDV. What should I be doing?
Glennmizu

Post by Glennmizu »

Hello. I had the same problem and someone on this board was kind enough to help with the following info.

The reason the picture looks cut on all sides on your screen is because your


Project properties <alt><enter> are set for 16:9 AND you have the
"Perform non-square pixel rendering" checked ON.

To Fix the problem just drag your clip into the timeline then click <alt><enter> which will open a dialog box. At the bottom right corner of the dialog box click “EDIT”

Next uncheck the “Perform non-square pixel rendering” Then click “OK” to close the box and then click “OK” on the dialog box.

Your clip should now be in full 16:9 widescreen.

Cheers

Glenn Waters
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Post by sjj1805 »

gordon_fan_24

May I ask the make and model of the camcorder used to take the video so I can look up the specifications on the internet before answering this query.

I doubt that unchecking the perform non square pixel rendering will cure your problem as 16.9 is oblong and not square.

For an explanation of square -v- non square read the following:
http://www.lurkertech.com/lg/pixelaspect.html
and
http://www.creativecow.net/articles/ger ... l_madness/
Regards
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Post by Glennmizu »

Hello Steve,
I don’t understand the technical details like you do but for me this worked.
My camera is a Sony DVD camera and captures in true 16:9.

My screen was cut on all 4 sides like the gentleman above. I tried and did find that by capturing in the Sony program and then importing the files into VS9 that I could have wide screen but it looked slightly squashed.

But thanks to maddrummer3301 for his advice I could have full 16:9 instantly. It saved me from a lot of trouble and frustration.

Anyway it is an easy task for the poster of this problem to try and see if it works for him as it did for me and maddrummer3301.

Please see

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... ght=#49510
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Post by sjj1805 »

Glennmizu

Glen, yes he should try your method first it is a quick simple test.
I didn't say it wouldn't work only that I think it may not work.
If it doesn't work I would need to research his camera specifications before being able to offer further advice.

Sorry if my post was misleading.
(By the way I also have a Sony Camera (See my signature) which captures 16.9 and I have the non square pixels selected.)

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Post by sjj1805 »

Glennmizu

I have just looked at the link you posted and noticed your reference to Video Redo Plus (I own that also)
There is in my opinion a better program named Womble MPEG Wizard which you may wish to try (I own that as well!!)
http://www.womble.com/download/
Similar price to Video ReDo but I find it more powerful.

Steve J
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Post by gordon_fan_24 »

My camera is the Canon ZR100. I managed to solve my problem by accident, just a few minutes ago. I had some footage that was shot in standard 4:3 mode, just before the 16:9 footage. While capturing, I guess I had added a bit of pre-roll (extra space at the beginning, that I'll trim down later) The pre-roll was in 4:3 and I guess VS reads the data on the tape that tells it that the video is 4:3 or 16:9, and since the pre-roll is 4:3 VS9 read this as the entire video being 4:3. I solved this by capturing the middle section, and the problem was resolved, by simply letting VS read the data on the tape to tell it what type of video it is.
Glennmizu

Post by Glennmizu »

Hello Steve and thanks for the tip. I have downloaded Womble. I will give it a try.

Many thanks
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

Glennmizu,

It gets confusing working with 16:9.

Your problem was different than the poster in this thread.
Your camera is creating the mpeg2 files directly on the Mini-DVD.
When capturing via DV tape (that's what the poster meant by saying DV, he records to tape in DV format and your recording in mpeg2 format to mini-dvd).
His video gets recorded & converted in the computer. Yours is recorded and converted in the dvd camcorder. VideoStudio 9 marks your files incorrectly so the file isn't correct after VS9 imports the video(s).

VideoStudio 9 records 16:9 from DV tape properly.

Normally the "Non-Square Pixel Rendering" is checked ON.
In your case you have to correct the file. After your files are corrected
and IF you re-import the corrected 16:9 videos to edit them then the option
"Perform Non-Square Pixel Rendering" should be ON because now your
working with a video file that now has the correct parameters.

Never a simple answer, ask someone what time it is and they tell you how to build the watch.

Hope this helps,

I'm glad that fix I posted worked for you.

MD
Glennmizu

Post by Glennmizu »

MD it did fix my problem. Thank you so much for the help and for explaining the difference for me. I will understand all of this one day with a bit of luck.
Erwin Buts

Post by Erwin Buts »

Well, I have a Canon DC 10 (writes on mini-DVD) and had the same problem and indeed, unmarking "non-square pixel rendering" did the trick for me too! :P
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