Flash stuff not working on VS9

Ekka · Post by **Ekka** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:17 pm

None of the flash is working and I get an error report to send off to Microsoft.

The error report from Microsoft suggest downloading Macromedia flash player etc ... which I have done, today, twice in fact and downloaded shockwave player as well.

I'm a bit lost here as to why the flash stuff is not working. After the error report it shuts down the whole VS9 program and any work unsaved is lost.

This is a brand new PC I have (1 week old), Athlon 3500 PCU, 1 gig RAM and 160 GB hard drive.

Any ideas??

Thanks, and sorry if this question has been asked before but I did surf a bit and didn't find squat.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:55 pm

Like your nickname! (I'm originally from Brisbane myself...)

Not sure what I can say about Flash though. I personally don't use it in my videos. However, I can certainly use all of the Flash clips which are included in VS9, both by themselves and as overlays on other videos. In fact, since I have just been forced for various reasons to reformat my computer and reinstall all my programs, I have also reinstalled the entire Macromedia suite, which of course includes Flash 8. Wondering if this might have affected the operation of Flash in VS9 (also just reinstalled 2 days ago and not used since), I have just -- after reading your post -- done a quick experiment. I inserted one of the stock video clips that come with VS9 (V13 to be specific) into the main track of the timeline. Then I inserted one of the included Flash animations (Motion D04, though I also used a couple of others with equal success) in the overlay track. Played the whole thing back in Project view. Result: a family walking along a forest path and a Flash club beating the father over the head!! I haven't, however, tried to render a final file of this, but would not expect any problem. Also have not tried importing a Flash produced outside VS9.

But as I just said here yesterday, there are quite a few people, now including yourself, reporting problems even getting this far using Flash in VS9. And unfortunately there does not seem to be any clear explanation of why, let alone a cure. It could, however, have something to do with a clash between the Flash player installed by VS9 (which I think is V8 ) possibly conflicting with an earlier version installed outside the context of Video Studio. As I just noted above, I have just installed version 8 anyway as part of the Macromedia install. So there is no conflict. But then again, I used the Flash animations in VS9 successfully before I had to reformat my computer. But I can't recall whether I did this before or after I first installed the Macromedia suite. But I had also replaced my motherboard a couple of months ago and thus had to do a complete reinstall of everything then, including, IIRC, version 7 of the general Flash player.

Someone else has also suggested that Flash Version 8 is much more finicky about the coding language used in the animations themselves, so that using a lower case letter instead of an upper case one, or vice versa, for example, might cause the animation not to ... well, animate! Apparently, according to this person, earlier versions of Flash player were more forgiving. His suggestion was to reinstall an earlier version of the player (IIRC, he said version 6), though where you might get one, I am not sure -- perhaps a Google search??? But I am not sure this argument necessarily stands up when it comes to Flash animations which are actually included in VS9 and which, at least on my computer, work just fine...

Stop press: just to prove something to myself, I just converted the above described brief 'project' to a final video file (Share > Create Video File), selecting both PAL DV and DVD as output formats, and it worked with no problems in both cases...

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:49 am

Hi Ken,

Alright

, thank you... Your testing with Macromedia's latest, helps dispell what appeared to me as the possible conflict that Ekka and others were having with the Flash animations. Since you have been able to use VS9 flash, and having Flash Player 8 (since you have the suite installed, you would have Flash Player 8 stand-alone) that means there is something else causing this problem. What???? I don't know..

I would have tested as you, except I use the poormans authoring tool, and not Adobe/Macromedia..

Thanks again Ken...

Ron P.

GuyL · Post by **GuyL** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:54 am

Like Ken, I can use all the flash clips included with VS9. However, I don't seem to be able to use any flash items outside of those. It either crashes or plays a couple of seconds of the clip and then stops.

I have Flash 8 Professional installed.

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:31 am

GuyL wrote:Like Ken, I can use all the flash clips included with VS9. However, I don't seem to be able to use any flash items outside of those. It either crashes or plays a couple of seconds of the clip and then stops.

I have Flash 8 Professional installed.

GuyL,

The Flash you are having problems with, are they compressed? When you create your SWF file from Flash 8 Pro, do you export (or however, in Swishmax it's export) to a compressed flash file? In Swishmax, I can export to Flash 5-8 format, compressed or uncompressed. I have no problems with uncompressed flash, however VS9 will not play the compressed. I just get an error message when trying to import them..

Ron P.

Ekka · Post by **Ekka** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:08 am

Well, thanks for trying on the problem but none of the VS9 flash animations work either ... like no overlays.

But here's the irony. On my old system that snuffed it P3 833mhz and 30gig HD 512MB Ram ... everything worked except for the "album" transitions, now the album transitions work but the flash doesn't.

I've attached a copy of the screen

www.palmtreeservices.com.au/funstuff/error.JPG

Please if you know anything to help, I'm listenening.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:09 pm

FWIW, I just downloaded some Flash animations from a couple of websites chosen at random after a Google search. All animations play happily on my computer and in VS9, including as overlays. I suspect, however, that they are older animations. In VS9, the properties show them as being 'DV compression'.

Post by **Ron P.** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:56 pm

Ekka wrote:Well, thanks for trying on the problem but none of the VS9 flash animations work either ... like no overlays.

But here's the irony. On my old system that snuffed it P3 833mhz and 30gig HD 512MB Ram ... everything worked except for the "album" transitions, now the album transitions work but the flash doesn't.
Please if you know anything to help, I'm listenening.

I'll add to the irony... Your system is not that different then mine. I've just added a second 200 gig HDD. However the album transitions work, but are so slow that I choose not to even try. The Flash works fine.

Have you tried a Repair if you have the Disc/boxed version, or Reinstall? It is sounding more like something didnt' install correctly. Do you have any problems playing any flash outside of VS? Try as Ken, d/l an animation or two and first see if they play fine in your browser or just as a stand alone. If they don't then it's an issue with Flashplayer itself and not VS. IF they do then it is with VS, and I would try a repair or reinstall.

Regards

Ron P.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:21 pm

Just out of curiosity, are the screen resolution and color depth the same for both computers?

George

GuyL · Post by **GuyL** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:01 pm

I have the same problem with compressed or uncompressed flash files. They only play the first little bit of the clip and stop - maybe 3 seconds.

Ekka · Post by **Ekka** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:34 pm

OK, lets try to nail it to which of the two it might be. I bought this product online and dont have the disk, and it's bit of a PITA to download again as they think your duplicating it etc.

Ken, could you email me some flash files, I can click on them and see if they work, and try them in VS9.

My email is eric@palmtreeservices.com.au

Flash stuff works in my internet browser that's for sure, but I think if I get an attachment it will fail to work ... just my gut feeling here, I dont think the flash player is loaded correctly or something... we will see.

I use flash overlays a lot in VS9 and I have a friend who makes up unique overlays that I insert for a great effect, it would be a shame to lose that ability.

Ekka · Post by **Ekka** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:31 am

If anyone else is experiencing flash problems also look at this thread and my post

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 8371#58371

Just might save you a headache.

brucefl · Post by **brucefl** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:34 pm

I have had the same problem. When I run movie wizard. I insert several still pictures to the project. Usually the problem starts when I click next, I find when I try to use a home movie, it generally does it. I click on the home movie, Then click the play to see how it will work after a few seconds I get the error message. If I click on the one I want, and save or click next I can get away with using one of the home movie selections.
I don't believe I have had the problem, if I use the slide show ones. I just updated my flash player, but it still does it. Definately has to be a glitch (still) in the program. Correction just did it in one of the slide show ones and it did it. Error it says is in the flash.ocx module.

htchien · Post by **htchien** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:53 pm

Check the update pack in http://www.ulead.com/tech/vs/vs_ftp.htm for the Flash problem.

Hope this helps.

H.T.