What do you do with older versions?

Brainiac · Post by **Brainiac** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:21 pm

Hi

I was wondering what those of you who have upgraded you MSP software (or any other Ulead software) do with the 'old' versions? Do you leave them on you HD, install them on another computer or delete them from your computer?

Can we use older and newer versions on the same or different computers?

Brainiac

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:42 am

With vv6.n and 7.n, they were totally independent and could be kept on the same computer. It is not quite the same with vv7.n and 8.0, although it is nearly so. The difference is that if you uninstall 7.n, you should re-install 8.0 as they do have some parts in common. IMHO, it is not brilliant programming to have common files between applications.

Owen Dawe · Post by **Owen Dawe** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:47 am

I'm not a computer buff, but I did build a computer two years ago and use it daily.

It all depends how old and how new. Software made pre 2000 for platforms such as Win 95 and Win 98 may or may not work on Win XP. Likewise software written for XP wont work on older windows platforms. Generally speaking. Also, newer versions made for newer computers may not operate on a older computer as it lacks cpu power, and there may not be enough ram.

I know from hard experience. When I built my computer I installed XP, all the new software then, installed an old program I had and it completly stuffed up XP. I had to reformat the hard drive and start again.

Why do you want to keep the old software as well as the newer version?Providing all the bugs are out of it should be far superior than the old one.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:31 am

There is a very good reason why you may want 2 versions. If you have projects started in an earlier version and you still want to work on them, it is better to continue working with them on the same version, while keeping the newer version for new projects. I have both 7.3 and 8.0 on my computer, as I still am working intermittently on a couple of projects started about a year ago.

It is not a good idea to switch versions in mid-stream.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:31 am

Also if you retain version 7, you still get to use Video Paint and CGI, without having to buy VGL.

Regards,
Greg

Brainiac · Post by **Brainiac** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:26 pm

Thanks for the responses, but I should further elaborate on the original question.

Let's say I have MSP6.5 and then I purchase the upgrade to MSP7. Let's also say that I get another computer in my home or business. Is it okay to install 6.5 on the new computer and keep 7.0 on the other computer?

Did I misinterpret something in the EULA? Should I no longer use MSP6.5 after purchasing the MSP7 upgrade?

Brainiac

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:04 pm

Don't take this as legal gospel, but I would say that if you have 6.5 on one computer, this is monitored when you ADD 7.0 on the same computer, so it must be OK to have both on one computer. If so, I see no reason why you shouldn't transfer (not copy) one of the versions to a second computer, unless there is a clause in the EULA that specifically says that you must uninstall the old version after the upgrade. In any case, isn't it rather academic (I think some have multiple installations with a single-user licence!!!)?

Don't forget to download and install the SP3 for your 7.0!

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:17 pm

There is a slight problem keeping version 7 and 8 both on the computer at the same time as it affects the audio filters.
There may be other items also affected but at least this is one of them.

You need to keep version 7 on the computer so as not to lose "CG Infinity" and also "Video Paint".

The following workround works.
Rename the directory
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0
to become
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0x

You then need to alter your shortcuts to both the above items and they work as before.

Regards
Steve J

ando775 · Post by **ando775** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:48 pm

Devil wrote:There is a very good reason why you may want 2 versions. If you have projects started in an earlier version and you still want to work on them, it is better to continue working with them on the same version, while keeping the newer version for new projects. I have both 7.3 and 8.0 on my computer, as I still am working intermittently on a couple of projects started about a year ago.

It is not a good idea to switch versions in mid-stream.

A very good idea. I've found opening 7.3 projects in 8.0 usually ends up in a crash.

walter.mittwoch · Post by **walter.mittwoch** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:31 am

sjj1805 wrote: Rename the directory
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0
to become
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7.0x

Hello Steve

When do you rename ?
before upgrading or after that?

greetings
Walter

wontonpe · Post by **wontonpe** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:05 am

I have run into problems with installing or reinstalling after a reformat. I have used the upgrade path, from VS bundled version to VS7 to 8 to 9 to MSP7 to MSP8. Obviously using Ulead products for years. Reinstalling is a royal PAIN. You have to go through ALL this software to reinstall. SO DON''T get rid of your older versions, if you upgraded and did not buy full version of each new version.

I also own a bunch of Serif software(desktop publishing) & have used it for years as well. When Serif sends an upgrade, it is a completely useful program in itself. In other words, they know I have purchased their product and so they send me the full version for the upgrade price. I sure wish Ulead would use this policy. I have spent (for us) a small fortune on their software & it should not be this hard to upgrade & reinstall. When I sign on the Ulead's site, they definately know what I have purchased.

So far the software is everything I want in video editing, I just wish they would cut out the HUGE patch downloads (GRRRR - on dial up) & picky upgrade policy.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:26 am

Hello Steve

When do you rename ?
before upgrading or after that?

greetings
Walter

Sorry for missing that point. Rename BEFORE you install the lastest version.

Regards
Steve J

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:33 am

Important Update regarding Media Studio 8 and previous versions.
Please view the following post
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=8485

Regards
Steve J

beardeddiver · Post by **beardeddiver** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:56 am

I am new to this board so please excuse my tone...

I just received my boxed V8. I have V7 installed and running fine. I also have and use Pinnacle.

I am using MSP simply to rotate video footage since I like to occasionally shoot in a vertical format inside coral canyons and I have yet to figure out how to rotate 90 degrees in Pinnacle - even with their special package that Pinnacle claims will do this... I output AVI from 7 and pull that into Pinnacle and continue on...

If upgrading to 8 is this much of an issue it sounds like I would I be better off returning it and sticking with 7. :-(

I do admit MSP seems to be a bit more capable from what little I have played around with, but I finally have Pinnacle working well and don't have time to spend searching boards and playing with systems - especially not regedit. That is why I pay for sofotware and why I don't try to build it from open source...

I really need to be productive and not be "geeking" around and now I am not sure 8 will get me there without much more time than I have available.

The groups advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks Very Much!

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:01 am

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what you are trying to tell me.

If you are happy with Pinnacle, that's OK with me. If you use MSP just to rotate a shot, and Pinnacle cannot do it, that's also OK with me.

However, MSP8 cannot rotate any better than MSP7; the process is similar. I cannot understand why you would need the new features that MSP8 offers if you use Pinnacle for everything other than rotating.

However, if you use MSP8 to replace Pinnacle, that is a horse of a different colour and I can understand you perfectly, 10 out of 10. But that is not what you are saying or, at least, what I understand you to say. I doubt very much whether Pinnacle can offer you anything that MSP8 cannot and MSP8 can offer you a lot that Pinnacle cannot. However, I say this without really knowing what the modern Studio versions can do, but they are not in the same class.

As to why you should have to use regedit to install MSP8 is beyond me. I have never done so. It has always installed perfectly - and worked - on any of my 'puters. What I admit is that you will have a learning curve if you wish to use MSP to its full capabilities, but it works and it works fine.

Hope this helps.

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