Pro 8 Crashing during initialization of audio filters

[David40]

Apparently I have a bunch of audio plug-ins on my computer that MediaStudio has a problem with. This is causing MS8 to crash during initialization of audio filters while starting. The funny thing is that I have no intention of using any audio filters in MS8 at all cause I use other software for sound production. Is there any way to stop or limit the way MS8 searches for plug-ins when starting? Ideally I would like to limited the number of filters to the plug-ins that came with it, but if that kind of selectivity is not available I would just as soon disable all the audio plug-ins alltogether. Is there anyone who can advise me on this?
Thanks, David40

[Helge]

Do you have also MSP7 installed on your system? If this is the case then please look at http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=8485 . Might be its the same issue.

[David40]

No, I do not have MSP7 on there but I did find a workaround in another thread that alowed me to disable all the DX audio filters via the MSP.INI file. That will have to do untill the Ulead Team gets their act together to write a plugin manager routine that alows users to specify the plugin directories to use and exclude and one that also has an error trap that detects and tracks failed plugins and excludes them from subsequent trys.
But thanks for the suggestion anyway.
David40

[Stu Iris]

Has anyone had problems during initialization at the "creating audio filters" segment of the load on MSP8? I was having the exact same problem as David40. I edited the MSI.INI file to ignore DX filters, but now it's still crashing when it gets to "creating audio filters". It's a fresh install, I've never loaded MSP7.

It is pretty frustrating not to have the option to disable VST plug-ins before attempting to load the program. I too use other programs to do my audio production on the same machine, and to wipe out all of my VST plug-ins is NOT an option.

Anyone have any work arounds for this?

I agree, a plug in manager ala Cakewalk's VST Adapter would be vital.

Thanks,
Stu

[Helge]

I also wished there would be a plugin manager. But as long as it is not available perhaps the tool from the following side might be helpful:
http://www.analogx.com/contents/downloa ... /dxman.htm

[Stu Iris]

Thanks Helge, I gave AnalogX a try. Not sure if it helped. I went ahead and uninstalled almost all of my multimedia applications, cleaned the registry, etc. just to see if I could get MSP8 to run, and it STILL keeps crashing when it gets to "Creating Audio Filter Gallery".

I even did an uninstall and reinstall of MSP8 and still no luck. I'm pretty baffled. I've emailed tech support so maybe they have an idea what the problem is.

Doesn't leave me with a great feeling, getting a piece of software and I can't even get it to run.

[David40]

I agree, if it were not for the fact that I use two different machines for audio and video I would be very angry. I realize that this is the result of people who write plugins that do not follow the rules. That is a fact of life with those things. But I also think it's sloppy programming on the part of the Ulead team. It would have taken a small amount of effort to anticipate the fact that some plugins might fail to load, and to provide some simple means of dealing with it aside from removing all of your plugins. I'll look forward to any solution that anyone comes up with.

[sjj1805]

The Audio Filters are located here:
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 8.0\aft_plug

You could try renaming that subdirectory to perhaps
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro 8.0\aft_plugx
to fool MSP8 into thinking it isn't there.

If that doesn't work delete the following file
C:\Documents and Settings\Stephen\Application Data\Ulead Systems\Ulead MediaStudio Pro\8.0\AFilter.rsa
To force MSP8 to create another one.
(Replace Stephen with whatever your user name is)

Let me know if this works.
Regards
Steve J

[me]

No, I do not have MSP7 on there but I did find a workaround in another thread that alowed me to disable all the DX audio filters via the MSP.INI file. That will have to do untill the Ulead Team gets their act together to write a plugin manager routine that alows users to specify the plugin directories to use and exclude and one that also has an error trap that detects and tracks failed plugins and excludes them from subsequent trys.
But thanks for the suggestion anyway.
David40

Please explain what you did to the MSP.ini file. Thank you.

[David40]

This works for me because I do not use any audio plugins in my video editor.

One possible workaround is to disable the ability to use DirectX audio filters. This is done by loading in the copy of MSP.INI found in

C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Ulead Systems/Ulead MediaStudio Pro/7.0/

Once MSP.INI is loaded into Notepad look for the entry;

[DXAudMgr]
DisableDXAudio=0

and change it to this;

[DXAudMgr]
DisableDXAudio = 1

This will make it so DirectX audio filter support is not initialized and therefore cannot be used, but it should get you going until further diagnosis can identify the culprit plugin.

[me]

Thanks for the info. I tried it, however, and it didn't work. I added that (the section was not already there) to every msp.ini file I could find.

On starting MSP8, the same problems with loading both dxi and vst audio filters. (By the way, how do you disable vst?)

This works for me because I do not use any audio plugins in my video editor.

One possible workaround is to disable the ability to use DirectX audio filters. This is done by loading in the copy of MSP.INI found in

C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Ulead Systems/Ulead MediaStudio Pro/7.0/

Once MSP.INI is loaded into Notepad look for the entry;

[DXAudMgr]
DisableDXAudio=0

and change it to this;

[DXAudMgr]
DisableDXAudio = 1

This will make it so DirectX audio filter support is not initialized and therefore cannot be used, but it should get you going until further diagnosis can identify the culprit plugin.

[David40]

I imagine the VST has a similar line in the INI file. You may have to uninstall and re-install the whole app again. That is all I know about it because, like I said, I don't use any audio plugins so I never bothered to research it any further.
DF

[me]

I imagine the VST has a similar line in the INI file. You may have to uninstall and re-install the whole app again. That is all I know about it because, like I said, I don't use any audio plugins so I never bothered to research it any further.
DF

Well, the dx line didn't work for me, so I don't know if the same line for VST would work either.

Is Ulead aware of MSP 8s problem with audio plugins?

[David40]

People have been complaining about this for well over a year now and I don't know of any solution or fix from the company. I believe I submitted a suggestion to fix this in the Wishlist thread. To tell you the truth I've always had problems with all versions of Media Studio locking up and freezing on me, especially when capturing. I've never found it to be a really stable product. Guess that's why I use Edius for most of my work now.
Good Luck,
DF