poor video quality

rad · Post by **rad** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:56 pm

OK Im about ready to throw something thru the window! LOL
I need some help or direction here:
I have a 50 min video which I did some minor editing in VS8. I rendered it as a AVI file and opened it in Workshop to create the slideshow & custom menus. The videp quality in workshop looked a bit distorted but not too bad. All worked well, I burned a dvd on High Quality since it was under 1 hour. After poping it into my player, the images & slidshow look great but the video quality looks like crap!! Where did I go worng??
any help please!

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:08 pm

Where did I go worng??

Who knows, you didn't provide any detailed information about what you did, or what the project and source video file settings were.

jchunter_2 · Post by **jchunter_2** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:42 am

Rad,
Why don't you start by reading the top post "New Users Please Read..." and follow the first link to the Recommended Procedure" for avoiding bugs in Video Studio.

rad · Post by **rad** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:33 pm

jchunter_2 wrote:Rad,
Why don't you start by reading the top post "New Users Please Read..." and follow the first link to the Recommended Procedure" for avoiding bugs in Video Studio.

I read all the threads, even re-captured my work and started over. I seem to be loosing picture quality AFTER I edit and add transisitions on the timeline. When I play back the "project", the picture looks fuzzy. What the?????

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:16 pm

Don't judge the quality by either the Clip or Project Preview -- output the project (or a section of it) to a video file, and open it in an external video player such as Windows Media Player. The UVS preview window cannot be sized to match your project's output target, and will therefore ALWAYS offer a distorted picture.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:40 pm

How was your original video captured? And when you output that video from VS8, what form of .avi was it?

How large is that 50-minute .avi file?

George

rad · Post by **rad** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:19 pm

GeorgeW wrote:How was your original video captured? And when you output that video from VS8, what form of .avi was it?

How large is that 50-minute .avi file?

George

the original footage is digital 8 master!! & it's captured as MPEG.

I recaptured everything using the guidelined for the "recomended work flow" & I'll se how things go. **fingers crossed*

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:24 pm

>I have a 50 min video which I did some minor editing in VS8. I rendered
>it as a AVI file

If you captured the file in Mpeg2 format as a Mpeg2 compliant video file
then STAY with that format. It appears you are performing a double conversion.
Recording as Mpeg file and outputting as AVI(first conversion), importing
into another program as avi and outputting as mpeg(2nd conversion).

Import the Mpeg2 file you recorded into WorkShop without converting
to avi.
Make sure when you capture the video you are using interlaced scanning.

Don't know your capture device but usually it's as follows for the fielding:
Analog = Upper_Field_First -> Field B.
DV(avi) camcorder = Lower_Field_First -> Field A.

Hope this helps,

MD

david reece · Post by **david reece** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:16 pm

this is my observation in VS8.

If i add a Jpg to the time line or overlay capture as either AVI and convert to MPG or direct MPG from the timeline the picture is fuzzy on both methods.

However if you pan and zoom it zoom in real close and the fuzzyness goes.

However in DVDWS2 i tried the following.

Added the images to the time line as is. I know i am going to get the picture cropped due to pal safe area.

When i created a DVD folder and reviewed it on Power DVD 4 the pictures are clear and crisp no pixelation, pulstaing what so ever. if i create a slideshow in VS8 the sameway it all goes fuzzy again!

Another Ulead application is DVD pictureshow. this allows you to place the pics in as per VS8 and DVDWS2 although trickier! However the resulting DVD folder has clear pics and you can set a the image inside teh Pal safe area.

However i noticed a problem in this application yesterday which hasnt happened in it before. the first 2 mins pulsated. after this point it stopped. How wierd! I have only experienced pulstating video in vs8.

I am sure that VS7 had clearer picture quality with JPG's and BMPs.

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:20 pm

David,

The original post:
>the images & slidshow look great but the video quality looks like crap!!
>Where did I go worng??

His slideshow appears to have good quality and he's having problems
with the video. At least that was the way I understood the post.

Hope this helps,

MD

maddrummer3301 · Post by **maddrummer3301** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:33 pm

David,
I've been using Framebased as per your suggestion when making slideshows with Ulead Products.
.
They come out with good quality.

MD

rad · Post by **rad** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:21 am

THoff wrote:Don't judge the quality by either the Clip or Project Preview -- output the project (or a section of it) to a video file, and open it in an external video player such as Windows Media Player. The UVS preview window cannot be sized to match your project's output target, and will therefore ALWAYS offer a distorted picture.

that's the funny thing...the original footage in UVS 8 looks great, when edited and put onto the timeline it looks poor and after I export into Workshop, it looks even worse. ALL the project setting remain the same so I can't see where things are going wrong.

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:49 am

Can you check the properties of the video you are adding to the timeline by right-clicking on the file, and displaying the media clip properties? Please paste that information into your reply.

Also, having the Workshop project settings would be useful.

rad · Post by **rad** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:03 am

THoff wrote:Can you check the properties of the video you are adding to the timeline by right-clicking on the file, and displaying the media clip properties? Please paste that information into your reply.

Also, having the Workshop project settings would be useful.

format-MPEG-1
file size 903,672 KB
VIDEO
MPEG-1 video
attributes 24 Bits 352x240, 4:3
frame rate 29.970 frames/sec
data rate 2000 kbps
AUDIO
MPEG audio layer 2 Files
Attributes 44100 Hz 16 Bit stereo
Layer 2
Bit rate 224 kbs

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:19 am

These settings would probably look almost like VHS. But after re-encoding to .avi, and then re-encoding for DVD, it's going to look bad.

You have to start off with better quality -- meaning you need to change the way you capture.

How are you connecting your Digital8 camcorder to your computer? Firewire or perhaps through a USB connection??? What model is your camcorder?

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