DVD returns to start after the first chapter

gomactrading · Post by **gomactrading** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:34 am

Version 9.0 Created DVD with automatic chapters of 3 minutes each. All chapters are hidden except the first which shows on the menu. When playing the DVD, after the fiurst chapter it returns back to beginning. I am sure I do something wrong. Can anyone reveal how to fix this problem.

bop · Post by **bop** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:56 am

In the burning module at the bottom left corner is a cog wheel click that and atthe bottom of that is the navigation control that you can sect to "continue playing next chapter" or "return to menu" i think thats where you went wrong

Brian

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:59 am

It may have something to do with hiding the chapters. But what have you got when you click on the little cogwheel icon in the bottom left of the burning module screen -- under 'Clip playback'. Does it say 'Back to menu' or 'Continue to play the next clip'?

gomactrading · Post by **gomactrading** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:15 am

The default is: auto repeat when disk playback ends. Continue to play to the next clip is grayed out. I only asumed that the chapters would play until the end of DVD since this is the default. Am I wrong? By the way, I appreciate and thank you for your input.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:32 am

As I said, I think your problem stems from hiding the chapters. You don't say how many video clips are on the DVD. But if, for instance, there is only one, and you have actually created chapters, you have the option to (a) create a main menu and chapter menu (the usual option); or (b) create only a main menu (by de-selecting 'Create Chapter Menu' under Advanced Setting on the second page of the burning module); or create only a Chapter menu (again by de-selecting Create Main Menu' under the same Advanced Settings button).

You have opted to hide your chapters, I suspect, under the mistaken belief that this would allow you to move between chapters but not have a chapter menu as in (c) above. As it is, with your chapters hidden, I suspect Video Studio treats it as exactly that and won't divulge the 'secret' of where they are hidden by not allowing them to be played. In other words, after playing the first chapter of the clip (which you can't hide anyway), Video Studio treats the entire clip as being completed, and returns to the start...

So my advice would be to experiment, and NOT hide the chapters, and either hide the main or the chapter menus themselves.

gomactrading · Post by **gomactrading** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:05 am

Thank you. I understand what you say. It is one clip divided in equal chapters of 3 minutes each. Yet I need chapter 1, 9, 15 and 24 ie to be menu chapters as well. Is there a way of doing that without hiding chapters? Thank you.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:16 am

I don't think you can -- though perhaps someone else out there may know a way.

I am intrigued, though as to why you specifically want only those chapters (apart from 1) on the menu. If some new/important scene starts at each of them, you might be better breaking the clip into four, with the second starting where you currently have chapter 9 starting, the next at chapter 15 and the final at chapter 24. That way you could create a main menu with those 4 clips showing, but, in Advanced Settings, not create a chapter menu, while still breaking the clips into their 3 minute chapters as you have currently done.

gomactrading · Post by **gomactrading** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:26 am

I was afraid of that. Magix 10 can easily do what I just said but I am not very fond of it although I own a copy. There must be a way in Ulead as well. If I get any smarter, I will share that with you. Thank you.

rguthrie · Post by **rguthrie** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:04 am

gomactrading,

Here's my offering for a solution.

I recently took 3 1-hour TV programs and burned them onto a DVD DL disc. What I wanted to do was create chapters where the TV program comes back in after a commercial (I edited out the commercials), these however will remain hidden. This way when I press next on the remote control it skips to where the show would have started after the next set of commercials. However, I wanted to have the beginning of each show show up as a chapter on the menu. Here's how I did this and it works great! BTW, the 3 1-hour programs are all on one rendered video. In other words they're not three separate videos.

1. Start a new project (after rendering a video file).
2. Go to Share->Create Disc.
3. Select Add Video and add your video.
4. Select Add/Edit Chapter.
5. Select the all the of chapter points you want and select OK when you're finished.

NOTE: On the ones you want hidden, select the Hide button or Right-Click on the chapter's thumbnail and select Hide Chapter.

6. Select Next and then select Advanced Settings.
7. Deselect Add Title Menu. That way you'll only have the chapter menu showing the chapters you don't have hidden and not the extra main menu.
8. Now select the Menu Template that you want to use. I usually customize my own here.
9. Select Next. Now you should be able to preview your video.

NOTE: You will not be able to preview the hidden chapter functionality here (unfortunately).

10. Select Next and finish burning your DVD.

That's it!

Hope this helps,
Ron G.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:05 pm

This could work as long as you do not want the "hidden" chapters from showing during dvd playback -- in your example you probably want to skip the commercials, so this is a great way to accomplish that...

If there are chapters you want to view (but not show up on the chapter menus), the hide feature will prevent them from showing during playback...

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:13 pm

Yes, I must say that I had thought, on seeing Ron's helpful suggestion, that he must have left the commercials in, and just made them hidden chapters which would not play. But I did not know how to reconcile that thought with his statement that he had edited the commercials out...

rguthrie · Post by **rguthrie** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:04 pm

Just to clarify, yes I did edit out the commercials. However, the show fades-out to black when going into a commercial break and fades-in from black when coming out of a commercial break. I kept this small section of black for chapter markers within each show. The "hidden" chapters do play, in other words, they aren't skipped over when I press the SKIP button on the remote control. So my end result is three shows on a DVD that are displayed on the menu. Within each show are hidden chapter points that I can skip to, logically to me, that's a break in the show where there was space for a commercial.

Hope this helps,
Ron G.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:52 pm

Hi Ron,

What happens when you just let the DVD play (without hitting the remote control NEXT/SKIP button)? I believe it will "skip" over the hidden chapters. The fade to/from black helps you to know the commercials are coming, and so this probably works well with your situation...

The reason you see the hidden chapters is because when you hit the "SKIP" button, you are bypassing dvd cell commands that instruct the dvd to skip the hidden chapters (during normal playback without hitting the NEXT/SKIP button).

rguthrie · Post by **rguthrie** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:16 pm

GeorgeW,

You are so right! I had checked to see if the hidden chapters would work when I pressed the SKIP button (and they did), however, I didn't take the time to let the video run. Well, lo and behold after the 3 min. intro and cut to the first commercial, the video skips to the next show! Arrrggh!

Well, I went back to the drawing board. Now I can get a nice main menu with 3 1-hour shows and have chapters (but no chapter menu) where the commercial breaks were (they're still cut).

Here are my revised instructions:

1. Start a new project (after rendering a video file).

2. Go to Share->Create Disc.

3. Select Add Video and add your video(s).

4. Select Add/Edit Chapter.

5. Select all the of chapter points you want and select OK when you're finished.

NOTE: Do NOT select Hide on any of the chapters as this will effectively cause your video to skip these “hidden” chapters when the video is played.

6. Select Next and then select Advanced Settings.

7. Ensure that Create Chapter Menu is NOT selected.

8. Now select the Menu Template that you want to use. Lately, I’ve been burning 3 1-hour shows onto a Double Layer disc so I choose to Customize my menu, select the background that I made for the show, and choose a Layout that shows all three clips on one menu.

9. Select Next. Now you should be able to preview your video.

NOTE: You will not be able to preview the hidden chapter functionality here (unfortunately). However you can skip to the next video.

10. Select Next and finish burning your DVD.

That's it!

Now, here's something else I learned today. I started off with 1 2-hour+ video that I had originally rendered. Well I didn't want to render each clip over again, so I simply used the Mark-in/Mark-out ability that's available in the first screen on Create Disc. So I had to add my video 2 more times to get the 2 additional shows. Well, at the end I got the notorious "this will take time to render..." so I went ahead and did it. It was either that or render each clip individually (about 2 hours of waiting). Surprisingly it took only about 15 minutes to re-render the clips. Wow, that was a surprise!

Hope this one helps,
Ron G.

P.S. Sorry for the confusion.

gomactrading · Post by **gomactrading** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:43 am

Thank you all. I am using now a different approach which is to create separate projects say 3. Then I insert the projects in the create disk part, break each project in chapters and select not to include the chapters into the menu. Select template and layout and proceed to writing disk. The projects must be selected after a fresh start of the program. Otherwise, I get an error, I think 4101. It worked severl times and it does the job. Yet let me say that this program gives me a lot of frustration plus that is it sooooooooooo slow.