Inserting a logo ?

bop · Post by **bop** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:36 pm

Did you get it sorted

Make sure you are in "timeline view" then click on the overlay track that should activate the yellow grab blocks

Brian

Nounours18200 · Post by **Nounours18200** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:09 pm

No, I have not sorted it, but I have new information that may help us to find a solution:

1-/.When I try to add the following logo:
http://elodiephoto.free.fr/public/Threshold_full.jpg

I have absolutely NO problem: I get the yellow boxes, I can move it aroud as I want, and I can resize it normally.

2-/.When I try to add this one:
http://elodiephoto.free.fr/public/Logo_ ... com_S5.jpg

I do NOT have the yellow boxes: the logo is sticked in the center, and no way to move it.

3-/.but I found something else: if I add FIRST the "no problem logo", and I add the second logo AFTER the first one, then I get the yellow boxes on the second one, but they have the same size as the yellow boxes of the first logo, letting me think that there is a problem with the file associated to the second logo. Unfortunately, when comparing the 2 files, there is no significant difference...

In addition, I can move the logo around, BUT if I try to resize it, then it takes a strange appearance !...

Please try to do the same (you can download the logos), and tell what your ideas are !

Thank you very much for your help,
N.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:44 pm

I found your solution. Your logo was too small. At 157x24, it was too small for VS to work with, VS probably has a problem becasue the adjustment corners would touch, but if you increase the size of your logo to 157x29 or larger (yes, I was dumb enough to get down to that detail) you will get the yellow adjustment boxes.

I had never run into this because I always start with a larger logo and shrink it down, but this one was interesting to chase.

Hope that helps.

Wolfgang van Ween · Post by **Wolfgang van Ween** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:05 pm

There is a work around: select the small jpg on the overlay track, make sure the "Edit" tab (and not "Attribute") is selected to the left of the preview window, and select "Apply Pan & Zoom". This surrounds the small image with a black box and all the handles. Now you can change the image's position on screen. When you're finished, deselect the "Apply Pan & Zoom" again. Voila!

Cheers, Wolf
PS My first post

TubaDad wrote:I found your solution. Your logo was too small. At 157x24, it was too small for VS to work with, VS probably has a problem becasue the adjustment corners would touch, but if you increase the size of your logo to 157x29 or larger (yes, I was dumb enough to get down to that detail) you will get the yellow adjustment boxes.

I had never run into this because I always start with a larger logo and shrink it down, but this one was interesting to chase.

Hope that helps.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:15 pm

Wolf,
I just tried your suggestion and it did work well. I was a bit surprised that the box created by the pan and zoom was not a solid black though. When I went to use Chroma to just have the logo, and not the larger box it actually left a shadow of the larger box.

Like I mentioned in my message, I have to shrink mine down so that would not affect me, but it is always nice to have multiple solutions to a problem.

Also, with good input like that, I hope you plan to stick around and continue to comment.

bop · Post by **bop** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:19 pm

Or what i was about to write is first put the no problem logo in the timeline then delete it, then put problem one in the timeline, and the box is then on the small logo. the resizing isue can be fixed by right clicking the logo in the preveiw screen and selecting "keep aspect ratio".

Brian

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:46 pm

Another complication is that I had previously told Nounours in an earlier email exchange on the subject, that I had no trouble opening the problem logo in my version of VS9, and have the yellow box handles immediately appear. But taking up TubaDads findings, I wonder if it succeeded on my set-up because of something to do with the size of the logo, but also my screen resolution (1152 x 864 on a 19 inch CRT screen) -- though I would hardly think so. I also told Nounours that I could move the problem logo around on screen (and without any workaround), but when I when to drag on one of the yellow resize boxes, it immediately, and without any dragging actually taking place, jumped to a larger -- and distorted -- size. This adds weight to the 'too small' theory. Indeed, I had speculated to Nounours that it could have been prepared in a larger format then squeezed down to its current size, and then jumped back to its original size when touched...

Hmmmm....

Nounours18200 · Post by **Nounours18200** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:34 pm

Waouh ! Tubadad (and the others): I have to test your suggestion to increase the logo size ! if you are right, then you are the King of UVS9...

I keep you informed !

Thanks

Nounours18200 · Post by **Nounours18200** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:04 pm

Here is the result of my test:

The TubaDad suggestion did NOT work: even with a bigger logo: I have tried 157x29 pixels, there is NO yellow boxes to move it around.

The Wolfgang van Ween suggestion DID work well (with the same 157x29 pixels logo tested with TubaDad suggestion): I can move the logo around and place it on my desired position onto the screen.

So, to date, the Wolfgang van Ween suggestion is the only way to workaround the problem !

Maybe we should report it to Ulead for a future patch ?

Waiting your replies,

Thanks,

rguthrie · Post by **rguthrie** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:33 pm

Nounours18200,

Here's my 2 cents. If you want a larger logo, start with a larger logo. When dealing with pixels, at least with my graphics experience with Photoshop CS2, it's always better to start off with a larger graphic that you can then size down. If you try to zoom too much on a small graphic the results will not be as crisp and clean as you expected and you'll just end up with a blocky mess. Try making your logo 3 or 4 times bigger than it is now, then bring it into VS. I think you'll like the results better than spending all this time trying to work with such a small graphic. Also, FWIW, I think there's a reason you're having difficulty seeing the yellow grab boxes. It's because Ulead expected people to take a large well-defined graphic and resize it smaller, or perhaps a bit bigger, not the other way around. Either way you're losing creative time on this.

Ron G.

TubaDad · Post by **TubaDad** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:34 pm

Did you try a little larger than 157x29? It could also be related to your screen size. My screen is at a very high resolution, so you might have to bump it all the way up to 35 or so. I do believe that Ken was on the right track with it being dependent to the screen size. Heck there are many things that could be a contributor.

While I think Wolf's suggestion does work well, I don't want to see mine drop like a rock.

Just a little jealousy peeking through.

(closest thing to a green monster in the emoticons).

Nounours18200 · Post by **Nounours18200** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:43 pm

While I think Wolf's suggestion does work well, I don't want to see mine drop like a rock. Laughing Just a little jealousy peeking through.

Well, I have VERY interesting news, guys !

My screen resolution is 1280x1024pixels (it is a 19" screen).

In order to not make TubaDad too sad (

!joke!), I have tested with smaller logos!
And it is absolutely incredible, because they are all OK !! since I have applied the "Wolfgang van Ween suggestion", which made the yellow boxes coming back, I now have the yellow boxes back even with logos as small as 100x12 pixels (!), and even the logo that did not work previously is now OK !!

So, it looks like the "Apply Pan & Zoom" attribute action has "turned on something back again" in UVS9 ... I cannot remember anything particular that I did, that may have turned this feature off ?!

What is your feedback on this situation guys ? have you tested with 100x12 pixels logos ?

Tks