Support for H265 and other modern codecs

[dzenb]

Is it possible that VS team could implement support for codecs used by modern devices as DJI and other drones, GoPro, Phones and others and finally implement proper recognition for rendering of the project based on the property of videos. I been using VS for 15 years, always getting some codex workarounds for rendering, bought 23 to see if finally implemented and nop.

Anybody agree with me?

[Ken Berry]

I have a GoPro Hero 9, Insta 360 1-inch 360 Edition and a smart phone which all film in both H.265 and H.264 mp4. I don't yet have a DJI drone but coincidentally about 10 minutes ago watched the promotional video for the DJI mini 4 which has just been released, and I see that it too films in both those formats. And I have been using mainly H.265 video with Video Studio since at least VS 2021 and now certainly also with VS2023. The results have all been excellent. The only thing you have to do is to make sure you have added the Microsoft HEVC Extension to your computer which enables access to the H.265 codec. A simple Google search will show you what to do to get that, but it is dead simple and involves just a very quick download.

H.265 is a demanding codec, but your computer specs are pretty good and should handle it well. If you have problems with slow or jerky editing using it, then VS 2023 and its predecessors have SmartProxy which makes lower quality copies ("proxies") of your videos which are much easier to edit, and when you are satisfied, the edits are then applied to your much higher quality originals.

[remmyhi]

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The videos coming from "almost" latest GoPro - Hero 11 (only HEVC) are perfectly working in 2023 (but were also working fine in 2022, and 2021) version of VS.
Both decoding and encoding back as X265.
The only thing you need to invest is a small codec pack from MS (search x265 from Microsoft in MS Store on your PC)

[dzenb]

I have Win 11 and no H.265 after installing codecs, this is why I'm asking VS team to implement it nativly without making extra steps. When they charging money for app it should be iintegrated not "sandbox for users" and I'm not asking about some very rare codecs it is most common codec used now. I'm downggrating now from H265 to 264 and it is workng but it is going thoug downgrated decoding.

[Ken Berry]

I too have Windows 11. Can we now assume that since you say "no H.265 after installing codecs", that you have now installed the HEVC Extension from Microsoft. Can we also assume that you have rebooted your computer since doing so?

Your point about having that codec installed natively as part of the VS installation is, however, taken. I have never really understood why that hasn't happened now that H.265 is such a commonly used codec, even if a demanding one. The only thing I can thing of for why Corel/Alludo has not done so is that it would involve them paying Microsoft the licence fee for it, rather than the user. Yes, they could increase the price of VS to the user to cover it, but they may not want to appear to putting up their price... This is, however, just speculation on my part.

[dzenb]

Yes, you correct. I installed codec, rebooted PC and codec is not there. Now I need to dig deeper if codec should be installed before VS installation. Anyway will be there as usual. This is what making us smart

[Ken Berry]

With a project in the timeline, when you go to Share and select MPEG-4 as the output, go down to the Profile box and click on the downward facing arrow. A large menu of formats should appear. On mine I get a number of choices at the bottom labelled HEVC (not H.265). Do you get those?

[dzenb]

So I tried everything. Removed VS, removed all codecs, install all codecs again, forced all codecs to register in the Win 11 with powershell in dev mode. Winds finally god this codec and can play H.265. rebooted PC, installed fresh VS 2023, NO H.265.
Again run powershell to force H.265 register in the Win 11 with dev mode. No H.265. And yes, I have this coidec in my Win features, and Media Player playing this. No codec. So now I foprced to recode it to H.264 High everytime when I''m sharing this. Simple quesiton why it is so hard to include it in the installation package of the VS. I know that smartests corel's guys been kicked out, but at least if they charging money they should find somebody with skills of normal developer to do this. Now I have reasonablke question why I'm still using VS ?... Any suggestions guys what is better ? It is time to switch

[lata]

Hi
I have done nothing to my environment other than installing the Microsoft HEVC Extension and that was free, a year later I had some issues and had to pay for the privilege, that was cheep.
But it works, and i could if i wish use H.265 being available via Share-Mpeg4 profiles, so far only used for testing, not impressed, maybe I need to update my hardware.
H264 is also available and as far as i know produces the same quality video as H265 although file sizes are a little larger.

Sure if my camera recorded to H265 I would be rendering to the same format.
I am sure that I am not the only one here that can use H265, if it were a problem with Video Studio then all would have a problem, at least thats my thought.
I am running Windows 10, others running Windows 11 are able to use H265 with Video Studio

So whats different with your environment to others here....
If you haven’t already done so you should contact Corel Support

[dzenb]

When 265 recodiong to 264, it is huge math process, with my hardware it is managable but it is not the reason why I'm trying to solve it. I see difference from H265 trnscoded to the H264 in color and quality on big screen.

When I'm trying to choose any HEVC profile I'm getting following error, and I have very good hardware. And yes I contacted support, but it will take time to respond they will start "hamster wheeling" process, as I'm IT so trying to solve problem first. Guessing there is some PS script which will cure this in second but ...

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Corel VideoStudio
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Your system does not currently meet the requirements for HEVC. Check the compatiblity of your graphics card and that you are running the latest version of the Windows 10 and Windows 11 operating system.
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OK
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[Ken Berry]

Looking at your computer specs, your Intel i9-12900K CPU has integrated Intel UHD 770 graphics. You also have the separate nVidia 4080 GPU. I am just wondering which is being used by VS 2023 when you are editing, and whether this might be why you are not getting access to the HEVC H.265 codec... I recall that on a previous computer I had a similar setup with integrated Intel graphics and a separate GPU, and was offered a choice when using VS. Have you ever received a message offering such a choice when using VS?

You can set the nVidia card as the default in the nVidia control panel. See https://forum.corel.com/viewtopic.php?p=317239#p317239 -- admittedly a very old post these days, but hopefully might still work. I can't unfortunately see if it will since I don't have integrated graphics, and my graphics card is AMD. But you might get some other ideas but looking at the whole of that thread.

[dzenb]

[dzenb]

I submitted ticket to corel but they drop me through the hell loop ( collect system, give them all info ) , I'm not going to do this. Eventuall they will fix it or I will find how to fix it myself. Guessing it is my last time when I'm paying for new VS. I broke my patter staying behind for 1 year, and now I'm working as tester for corel for free.

[dzenb]

As I'm digging deeper what I found. If you had windows 10 and installed HVEC ( free) already and after that updated Windows 10 to Windows 11, HVEC will work. If you got Windows 11 and installed HVEC $1 from MsStore - HVEC will work ( sometimes). If you Got your Windows 11 updated from Windows 10 ad after that installed HVEC $1, it will not work. So I submitted this as "goodlucktogetfixfrommicrosft" forum, and guessing couple months latter we will have answer. So I tried actually install ( by Jedi force) old HVEC from Windows 10 to Windows 11, register it but it is not fixed problem. Anybody smarter than me please help! I do not want to dive in the API tracking yet or ProcMon or Procexpl, if you want go ahead, I pointed you in direction.

[dzenb]

Unfortunatelly it is no solution in this time to get it work. I installed VS 2022 and at least it is stopped telling me that for HEVC my computer does not meet minimum requirements. I installed different video editing software to confirm if it related to my OS, CODEC set and that software reading, coding, decoding, editing ALL possible formats on my PC/OS with CUDA and even Intell video native. including H.265. So solution for now is very disapointing, to use older verion of the VS as 2022 , or completelly move on, which is not what I expected. Waiting refund.