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sunburst on transparent layer

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I'm using PSP 2022.

I need to make an image with a sunburst behind it. I can have the sunburst on a layer that has a color but not on a transparent layer.

My idea was to

have a top layer with the image (transparent background)
layer below it is the sunburst (transparent background)

I need to use this image on a webpage with a gradient background color so the image background needs to be transparent.

Does anyone know how to do this?
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Could you show an example of what you want?
Use images and not words if you want to explain something visual. :D
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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OK.
I suppose you want the white color to be transparent.
If the white sunburst is transparent in your original image, save the image in PNG format with Transparency ON.
JPG images remove the transparency.
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Sorry, that's not what I want.

The packshot image is the top layer. That layer has a transparent background because I need to see the web page's gradient colour.

Behind that packshot image, there is the white sunburst, you can find that under Effects -> Illumination Effects -> Sunburst. That white sunburst is on a transparent layer behind the packshot image.

What I want is to use a transparent background for the sunburst layer (because I want to see the web page's gradient colour), but when that layer is transparent it won't show the sunburst. When I make that layer not transparent, but give it a colour, the sunburst is there.
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I want to have it exactly as on the picture, but the packshot image and the sunburst only. Not the yellow and orange background.
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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I have two possible methods that might work.
First Method - Use a paintbrush
Download a paint brush head (PSP can import Adobe paintbrushes if you can't find one for PSP). Then just use the paint brush to draw a sunburst onto a raster layer beneath your package.

or

The second method - use masks.
1) Create a new Raster Layer
2) Fill it with White or whatever color you're going to want your sunburst to be
3) Layers -> New Mask -> Hide All # This will group the raster layer with mask layer
4) Select the Mask Layer #Note the thumbnail for the mask should be all black - hiding everything
5) Effects -> Illumination -> Sunburst
6) Choose White as the color for the sunburst, The color of the raster layer should now be showing through in the shape of the sunburst
7) Position the sunburst where you want it
8) Hit OK
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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The sunburst effect doesn't work on a transparent layer.
I was able to reproduce what you want with a sunburst effect applied on a black layer and that layer switched to Screen blend mode (see attached).
Sunburst blend.jpg
But the PNG saved file did not recognize the transparency.

I tested LeviFiction's suggestion with the PaintBrush and that was easy to obtain the attached result.
Sunburst paintbrush.jpg
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Alright. That looks promising.

Today I won't have time, but I am going to try it over the weekend.

Thanks guys.
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LeviFiction wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:20 pm The second method - use masks.
1) Create a new Raster Layer
2) Fill it with White or whatever color you're going to want your sunburst to be
3) Layers -> New Mask -> Hide All # This will group the raster layer with mask layer
4) Select the Mask Layer #Note the thumbnail for the mask should be all black - hiding everything
5) Effects -> Illumination -> Sunburst
6) Choose White as the color for the sunburst, The color of the raster layer should now be showing through in the shape of the sunburst
7) Position the sunburst where you want it
8) Hit OK
This worked very well. Thank you.

One more question. If I made this on a larger transparent layer, is there any way to crop the part I want to use? I've not managed so far. In the end, I started all over and made the layers the size I wanted to use, but cropping would be very handy if that's possible. Or copy and paste the layers to another empty layer would also be great but I had difficulties copying all the masked layers.
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Grab the Crop tool - then on the Tool Options Palette to the far right you'll see a section titled "Snap Crop rectangle to:" these are shortcuts to automatically snap the crop to the correct position.

If you don't see this section it might be hidden because your screen isn't wide enough to show all of the options, you'll want to look for a white triangle pointing to the right, click on it to expand the hidden portions of the palette. You can see the white triangle pictured in the screenshot below, I've circled it in blue. And in Red is the shortcut for "Merged Opaque" this will find only the opaque areas of the image on all layers and create a rectangle surrounding them. That should give you what you want.
mergedopaque.png
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Re: sunburst on transparent layer

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Got it. I was using the Selection Tool and then tried to copy and paste that, but that didn't work. The crop tool works well. I'm going to dive deeper into the different tools options.

Thank you very much for your help.