zFrame (v3.2.0)

[tintin]

new update available on the aftershot plugin page...
http://www.aftershotpro.com/plugins/ind ... lug=zframe

changelog:

• pipe stage adjustment to work properly for ASP version 1.1.0.28 or higher
• integration in asPluginManager introduced

enjoy framing!
tintin

[bananahead]

Thank you tintin

[freudenthaler]

Hi all,

just started to play around with tintin's zFrame & zText plugins.
As I understand it, all values are relative to the "base" specified in the "settings"-tab. That makes me wonder, how to use the "same" frame (in terms of size & location) for pictures shot in landscape as well as shot in portrait mode? And cropped to square size as option in between the former two..

Wouldn't it be much nicer to just have to specify absolut pixel values for that?

Any help appreciated - thanxs!

[tintin]

As I understand it, all values are relative to the "base" specified in the "settings"-tab. That makes me wonder, how to use the "same" frame (in terms of size & location) for pictures shot in landscape as well as shot in portrait mode? And cropped to square size as option in between the former two..

that's why you have the choice not only between width and height as base, but also from long and short edge...
if you use long (or short) instead of width (or height), you'll get the same result of your frame (or text) independently of landscape or portrait images...

Wouldn't it be much nicer to just have to specify absolut pixel values for that?

no, in that case you would have to adjust your preset for each image individually as soon as you have it cropped or using another cam with another resolution.

br,
tintin

[freudenthaler]

that's why you have the choice not only between width and height as base, but also from long and short edge...
if you use long (or short) instead of width (or height), you'll get the same result of your frame (or text) independently of landscape or portrait images...

Played a litte around with different settings of zFrame & zText on different picture sizes & proportions - still not clear how it should work??
How can the frame border have the same size when it's relative to the long edge? Should picture A eg. with long edge 4000px get another border thickness than picture B with 3000px long edge or not? I guess with width / height they should, with long / short they should not - right?

Also zText starts with same X settings on different postion --> see next two attachments.

zFrameText_settings2.png

zFrameText_DifferentXPos.png

So either the frame border or the position of the text behaves differently?

I use the preset in an batch output to scale to quarter full hd --> why do the frames have different border sizes?

zFrameText_NotSameSize.png

What am I doing wrong? Thanks for input..

[tintin]

How can the frame border have the same size when it's relative to the long edge? Should picture A eg. with long edge 4000px get another border thickness than picture B with 3000px long edge or not? I guess with width / height they should, with long / short they should not - right?

wrong. with both the two images will have different border sizes in pixels. and that is what it is intent to do! important is that you'll get a constant border size on your prints independent on the resolution that your images has.
(your) example: image A has a width of 4000px, image B 3000px - to have a constant border size on your print you need to add more absolute pixels border for image A than for image B. e.g. 10% would give you 400 exta pixels for image A but only 300 px for image B. but on a print out the imges would have the same border width. e.g. for a print out of 10x15cm, the border would in both cases be 13.6mm.

i don't undestand your problem with zText, yet. could you maybe explain it a bit more detailed. but i would appreciate to handle the zText problem individually in the zText thread. thank you.

br,
tintin

[freudenthaler]

Tintin, thanks, now it get's clearer.
Certainly for *printing* this is the right way and I understand the idea of having relative values in conjunction with long & short.
However, if you need fixed frame sizes for *web output*, the whole story sucks as long as you don't have pics with the same size - and my pics often have different sizes due due to cropping. So sizing *before* framing is necessary for me (as long as I want to stick with zFrame - and I really do like this plugin), which forces me to add another process step
Otherwise if done as described, also my problem with zText behavior will vanish

[tintin]

However, if you need fixed frame sizes for *web output*, the whole story sucks as long as you don't have pics with the same size

even then... same example: image A has 4000px, image B 3000px, the added frame is 10%. leads to frames of 400px for A and 300px for B. then if you put both image for web-out-put to for example 1000px width. you'll have the same frame width for A and B of around 90px... or are you using for each image a different size for web out put but wanting same frame sizes - that would make me wonder...

br,
tintin

[freudenthaler]

Sorry tintin,

seems that I had a problem in an output batch scaling the pics. Therefore my pics didn't get identical frames an led to results shown above (the frame of the left picture is bigger than that of the right one, although both pictures have the same longe edge - 3872px).

[ChrisC]

Hi
Since I upgraded to a new camera which produces bigger files I have a strange problem:
If I send more than one image to the output batch the PC is getting very hot seems to work real hard
but nothing happens or I am not waiting long enough (the output batch does not produce any files).

After a while I discovered that the zFrame-Plugin causes the trouble.
Is this the 100% CPU Bug? Is there something I can do?
(Using the newest version 3.2.0)

thanks
chris

[hannes_hab]

which ASP Version?- I had these troubles with the newest test version (Beta v1.1.0.28). I always use zFrame - so I did not notice the maybe zFrame could cause the problem.
I swiched back to the stable version - and erverything was fine again

[tintin]

I had have similar problems, but not related to a special plugin. then i also switched back to version 1.0.1.10 - and everything was fine again.

so i just can recommend to use the latest stable version for your photo-work-flow - and the beta version only if you really want to beta-test.

here is the latest official release....
http://www.corel.com/corel/pages/index. ... id=4300004

br,
tintin

[ChrisC]

Thanks for the tip - unfortunately I already use version 1.0.1.10

[tintin]

Thanks for the tip - unfortunately I already use version 1.0.1.10

ok. in that case it could be helpful to send me (or post it here) the corresponding xmp file you are using for that image.
is that really related to the images of your new cam only? when using the same zF settings for images of another cam it does not freeze?
may be i need an image of that (kind of) cam as well... which cam is it? do you use raw or jpg?

br,
tintin

[ChrisC]

I will do a few tests and post the results...