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They're working on something ...

Post by lundbech »

Update on facebook from Corel:
We're working on something we promise. Unfortunately we can't share any details at this time. Thank you for your patience and for sticking with us.
I'm sorry, but what kind of company uses the words "we promise" in an official statement? :shock:

I find myself amazed that Corel continues to believe that something like this will make any difference at all. I do not doubt that they are working on something, I'm just not sure that it will be something that I would want ...
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I suppose this is a sneak preview of a statement intended for the upcoming April Fools' Day??
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Something could well be a pay rise!!
I've been patiently waiting to upgrade my camera. Well the time has come. But ASP won't do the trick. So Corel had better remove a finger very soon or I'll be a 'past' user.

I simply can't understand Corels attitude. They WERE in a great position to take advantage of Adobes CC *** up. Now it seems Corel simply hasn't the mentality to figure out what many others already know.

regards
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Post by sauron »

It's nice that they promise. Unfortunately we can't believe them at this time. Thanks for nothing...
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Post by Trucks »

Maybe the next company outing?
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Post by thazooo »

Losing customers.
Works great with my older bodies but since upgrading I'm at the same point as a lot of others. I've reverted back to using the camera manufacturers converter and to my surprise
it gives better images.
Bye ASP

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brucet wrote:I simply can't understand Corels attitude. They WERE in a great position to take advantage of Adobes CC *** up. Now it seems Corel simply hasn't the mentality to figure out what many others already know.

regards
Yep, they were handed a golden opportunity which they promptly walked away from.
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We should sign a petition on change.org with a request to opensource it, or create a kickstarter to do a hostile takeover bid over the company. Being such a crappy company dealing with customers, I wonder how they manage to survive...
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txoni wrote:We should sign a petition on change.org with a request to opensource it, or create a kickstarter to do a hostile takeover bid over the company. Being such a crappy company dealing with customers, I wonder how they manage to survive...
You start it and I am sure you will find may to sign it but will it give us a revised/updated ASP ?

When Corel sacked the old Bibble development team we should have done that then. 12-18months ago!
Still learning after all these years!
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jknights wrote:but will it give us a revised/updated ASP ?
Who cares what they have done or updated. You would at least have the last version you have available. It would give us its code and the ability to update it for newer cameras, add new features, fix bugs for newer distributions...

See similar successful projects: www.blender.org (bought by crowdfunding and opensourced), www.lightzoneproject.org (abandoned by the company and released as source code)
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jknights wrote:When Corel sacked the old Bibble development team we should have done that then. 12-18months ago!

Yeah, because the old Bibble team were so great at releasing updates :roll:

And once you have bought it, how are you going to keep it current?
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bananahead wrote:And once you have bought it, how are you going to keep it current?
It's called coding, bananahead. Haven't you ever used opensource? I will list a few projects that do this on a daily basis, for free, that do support newer cameras, even those that Aftershot does not:

http://www.darktable.org
http://www.lightzoneproject.org
http://www.rawtherapee.com
http://www.rawstudio.org
http://www.photivo.org
http://www.cberger.net/Programs/Darkroom
http://www.digikam.org

I use darktable these days, since it supports my EOS 70D, when AfterShot does not (yet or forever?). It's already much more powerful than Aftershot and many other commercial software, but its graphical user interface is a bit messy and their authors seem unable to accept it's wrongly designed. I doubt they ever run through a customer feedback, they are pretty feature-focused, and they already got used to eating their own dog food.... Also it's a bit slower than Aftershot, although it is improving.

AfterShot/Bibble on the other hand was built ground up based on Qt libraries, real nice to work with, especially when designing powerful platform independent graphical user interfaces.

You could even reuse the code from those projects to add support for new cameras and features into AfterShot.

Other than that, If anyone has a new camera they can provide samples, or even code that adds support for it. You can peek and edit, fix the code to tune it to your needs.

It just seems to me that Corel did not know what to do with this software when they bought it over. They lack the skills for multiplatform (all their software is windows based), and they are old fashioned closed-source reduced userbase minded...
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bananahead wrote:
jknights wrote:When Corel sacked the old Bibble development team we should have done that then. 12-18months ago!

Yeah, because the old Bibble team were so great at releasing updates :roll:

And once you have bought it, how are you going to keep it current?
Well actually as a I.T. project manager and business analyst this would be very easy as I can specify the required code changes and hire coders and put them to work on the 'important aspects' of the project.

For me the following are important.
Update of RAW support for new cameras.
Fixing of bugs.
Fixing of SDK.


There is little or no need to extend the functionality of the base Bibble product.

Does that answer your somewhat sarcastic comment?
The Bibble team were resource capped in the latter years which explains their slow release rate.
I am not so handicapped!

BTW:
If Corel want to sell or make the source 'open code' then I am available for negotiation.
I doubt that Corel management will read this so I dont expect to hear anything from them. My email is in my profile if they do.!!!
Still learning after all these years!
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Post by Dutchmm »

In my experience of IT, it is very easy to paint yourself into a corner from which it becomes more and more expensive to escape. One of my clients in the 80s had been a very early adopter of IBM's hard disc technology. They had their whole UK customer database (8 million customers) in compressed form on 48 3350s spread over 2 datacentres. And they were spending 40 man years per annum on the maintenance of the access routine for this file.

I am hoping that Corel have been, and still are, working on refactoring AS so that new camera compatibility is faster to add in the future. Of course, if they are also working on the "stinking wounds" of highlight recovery and noise removal, that is also laudable.
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jknights wrote:
bananahead wrote:
jknights wrote:When Corel sacked the old Bibble development team we should have done that then. 12-18months ago!

Yeah, because the old Bibble team were so great at releasing updates :roll:

And once you have bought it, how are you going to keep it current?
Well actually as a I.T. project manager and business analyst this would be very easy as I can specify the required code changes and hire coders and put them to work on the 'important aspects' of the project.

For me the following are important.
Update of RAW support for new cameras.
Fixing of bugs.
Fixing of SDK.


There is little or no need to extend the functionality of the base Bibble product.

Does that answer your somewhat sarcastic comment?
The Bibble team were resource capped in the latter years which explains their slow release rate.
I am not so handicapped!

BTW:
If Corel want to sell or make the source 'open code' then I am available for negotiation.
I doubt that Corel management will read this so I dont expect to hear anything from them. My email is in my profile if they do.!!!

So you expect a company that paid for the product to give it to you for free and you are then going to commercialise it yourself?
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