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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby tanecn » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:46 pm

Yes, the cropping tool is fixed more or less, even better than in the 2018 issue because the "jumping zoom" dont't apper any longer and the color "improvemet" (i.e. color damage) is off by default (the button is on, but the "improvement" settings are at "no change")
[sorry for my "German" English]
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby DPainter » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:40 am

Nope! Cropping tool is still total crap. It keeps going back into the center of the window when trying to crop out a small piece from a 4K image. 2018 didn't/dosen't do that. And why is there additional things like the color (damaging) with the crop tool at all? We have other tools for doing other editing that we can control by degree.

I've used this program and it's versions for years. But I have to say I'm really loosing faith in it's developers.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby JoeB » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:20 am

And further to what DPainter said, while I haven't installed the patch I understand that the crop tool still rotates the image instead of the crop rectangle, AND still puts borders around the image so that you have to scroll resize to get rid of them. Those were the first issues with the 2018 version that made the tool crappy, and if they still exist then any other "fixes" they made are irrelevant to me and the multitude of people who complained about the first issues.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby flagpole » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:50 pm

I find it quite bizarre that is taking so long to repackage the update.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby MarkZ » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:28 pm

JoeB wrote:And further to what DPainter said, while I haven't installed the patch I understand that the crop tool still rotates the image instead of the crop rectangle, AND still puts borders around the image . . . . .

I believe that there is a substantial change/improvement to the crop tool in the update - I hadn't paid a lot of attention to the tool recently but am aware of all the complaints. In the current iteration there are no borders during cropping but the tool does rotate the image rather than the crop rectangle. This feature is a matter of preference so it would be nice if we had a choice. I like the fact that I can see what the final result will look like when I am looking at an image the way it will appear after cropping, not tilted on the monitor.

The silly editing icons are still there on the tool bar - ridiculous.

The degree of zoom in the examples was my choice, not something the crop tool did.

psp2019-06.JPG
Crop tool, no rotation

psp2019-07.JPG
Crop tool, rotation.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby MarkZ » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:48 pm

DPainter wrote: . . It keeps going back into the center of the window when trying to crop out a small piece from a 4K image. . . . .

I think your post is misleading. Here is a screen capture of cropping an image that is zoomed in about 60% on a 4896x3264 (7 Mb) image. Didn't go into center, allowed me to move the scroll bars.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby tanecn » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:57 am

Yes the display is going to the center but can by adjusted by the scroll bars to whatever area you want to see. The crop frame itselve don't jump. I find also the image tilt instead of frame tilt very helpful since it is much easier to assess horizontal adjustment of the frame content so.
Of cause there is enough room for further improvement

Perhaps the admin can move this crop tool discussion to a dedicated thread.

Regarding the thread tilte hiere: the PSP 2019 patch is online again meanwhile. It would be interesting to hear whether it's the same patch or an improved one (w.r.t content, not installation procedure)
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby ltjost » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:48 pm

I am getting the error on update about not finding the msi file...but noted in earlier comments that they were pulling the update until fixed...but I jsut got it last night and it is still not working...so apparently neither pulled nor fixed.
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Re: PSP 2019 Update1 Fails

Postby ehume » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:04 pm

ltjost wrote:I am getting the error on update about not finding the msi file...but noted in earlier comments that they were pulling the update until fixed...but I jsut got it last night and it is still not working...so apparently neither pulled nor fixed.


Another reason to be glad to be on PSP 2018, not 2019. Maybe 2020 will be better/acceptable, maybe not. But I'll bet PSP Ultimate 2018 is cheaper than PSP 2019, though.
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