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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Arnfinn » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:15 pm

Dutchmm wrote:So tell me, in Norway, when you find an apparently dead body, don't you slap the face to see whether there is a reaction?

I don't know. We don't have that much dead bodys lying around anymore... :roll:

Regarding ON1 and other raw converter products. Discussing them vs ASP are certainly not off-topic. I just thought that the discussion of the different Linux configurations to make it work was...
...but, the elephant in the room is the dead horse named ASP... :?
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Kneops » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:28 pm

I agree on many if not all things in this topic, and I complain perhaps a little bit too much on the facebook page of ASP. But I just took another look at everything available at the moment for converting raw images, including things not available on Linux. What makes me so sad is that I really like ASP, and after trying out Darktable, Lightzone and RawTherapee on Linux, and DxO, Capture One, Lightroom within my Windows Virtual Box, and even when only looking at the image quality, I like the overall FEEL of the images I get from ASP the most. And I even get them the fastest and easiest way possible. So I really want ASP to go on, even if that means that I have to wait for months and months for my Fuji XT2 to be added. I really wished there was a way for me/us to help, but I guess we are all just customers, waiting for what will be or will not be.
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Arnfinn » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:57 pm

Amazing how nothing happens at/with ASP, and the constant lack of comments/updates from the ASP Dev. Team. The silence is deafening.... :mrgreen:
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Kneops » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:54 pm

ASP is dead. They should sell it.
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby tigerwarrior » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

Dutchmm wrote:
This wasn't intended as a thread/discussion of ON1 RAW on different Linux configurations.


So tell me, in Norway, when you find an apparently dead body, don't you slap the face to see whether there is a reaction?

Because, if there isn't, then some of us need a way forward.

HAHAHAHHAHA
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Arnfinn » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:03 am

I made this post exactly one year ago in the hopes that Corel would wake up and PROVE that ASP isn't abandoned. So today, more than a year since the last lifesign from the devolopment team, it has officially become abandonware.

The time of last signs of life from the Corel development team have long gone by. Alex Brazeau hasn't posted in the AfterShot forum since Sat Dec 24, 2016, and Greg Wood
hasn't posted anything in here since Tue Aug 23, 2016. No updates, no developer feedback, no lifesign, no nothing...

RIP ASP.
Long time a great tool and companion. Then abandoned, neglected and forgotten. What once made the product great, others have adapted and surpassed. Goodbye...
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby angeloweb » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:29 pm

Yes, Arnfinn, it's disappointing. Similar, although even more disappointing feeling near the end of Aperture.
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Arnfinn » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:06 pm

Seems like SmugMug integration is all they can get together, and now almost a half year later...????

They must be very busy at the developer team... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Arnfinn » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:58 am

AfterShot 3 was introduced May 13, 2016. Since then, they have managed to integrate ParticleShop and SmugMug, and a few bug fixes. Their lack of development has disappointed me big time. I have been a customer since BibblePro 4, long time before it got aquired by Corel and renamed into AfterShot.

Their lack of development, however, is very much contrasting to their very extensive marketing, both on Facebook and all over the web. Over a very long period, I have had their ads showing up in my Facebook feed daily. With their obvious lack of development into the product I feel that's bordering towards the dishonest. Sure it's a good product, but it's several years old technology and they haven't done that much to it except for a few bug fixes, and the mentioned ParticleShop and SmugMug integrations. Other competing products have evolved enormousely during that time, and ASP is seriousely lagging behind its competition.

When I got the ASP ads in my Facebook feed, I must admit that I couldn't stay away from commenting on a few of them. It's quite comical that they still present this product as a brand new revolutionary technology and that they also make use of two to three years old articles to compare it against other raw converters. I think they must have gone tired of my comments now, because they have removed my comments entirely from their posts and blocked me from further commenting. But that's ok, because I can now enjoy my Facebook feed without risking any health and anger issues, since their ads also have stopped popping up in my feed due to their blocking.

I have been an avid user and big supporter for Bibble/ASP for years, and have used it as my main program for all my images all that time. It's a pity that they have neglected it for so long that it's no longer worth using. It's a pity because I really liked the color/tones I got, but I can't continue using it when I also have to use other programs to get my pictures finished the way I like them. I did hope for years that thew would get their act together and commit to this product, but now it's way too late for them to catch up with their competitors, it seems...
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Re: COREL, where do you go from here...?

Postby Voiceofexperience » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:08 pm

Arnfinn wrote:bordering towards the dishonest.

"Bordering towards"? What corel is doing is full-on fraud by misrepresentation/taking money under false pretences.

Sure it's a good product

Right there is the reason they continue to feel at liberty to abuse their customers, Arn. Even by the end of Bibble, this was an inept, bug-infested, drastically under-performing piece of software as far as image quality is concerned: but as long as even one person throws them a bone by suggesting that it's "good", they're going to feel justified in inflicting this abortion of a converter on the public in its current form.
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