Observations on AfterShot Pro

[ferdinand-paris]

They've also reduced their market share by not supporting XP.

[ormdig]

My apologies to marbly. I tried to quote a small part of your post at the head of my post and it didn't work. Sorry.

[Dutchmm]

They've also reduced their market share by not supporting XP.

This is a major marketing opportunity for Corel, if they can get the next upgrade ready, especially the latest cameras. Many LR users who are unwilling to let go of XP are considering jumping to Linux - and might as well jump to ASP at the same time, since they will need a new licence.

[pesto126]

I too was reluctant to jump off XP .. but I am SO glad I did.. W7 works well and I haven't crashed or had any problems. Not sure why anyone at this point would hold onto XP and change over to a different workflow/software solution just to avoid W7..

[ferdinand-paris]

I too was reluctant to jump off XP .. but I am SO glad I did.. W7 works well and I haven't crashed or had any problems. Not sure why anyone at this point would hold onto XP and change over to a different workflow/software solution just to avoid W7..

Time. Expense. XP still works for me (better than Vista ever did).

What's the drive to upgrade? To pay Microsoft more just so I can have the privilege of paying Adobe less for LR4? I'll upgrade when I really need to, and that's not today. Or tomorrow.

This is a major marketing opportunity for Corel, if they can get the next upgrade ready, especially the latest cameras.

+1

F_P

[dburton]

I'll by-pass the whole XP/W7 discussion.

However, as to ASP, I started the exercise of re-building all my previews, left the PC on overnight, and awoke to find the program had crashed about 2/3 of the way through the process. Re-started, and ASP finished. Closed ASP, re-started, began to page down through the thumbnail view of my personal catalog, and watched as the program continued to "import>' I completed the import process over a week ago. The continuing "import" process starts every time scroll down a couple of pages in thumbnail view, and the program crashes 50% of the time, even when I leave it alone to finish its (new?) "import" process.

If there's anyone out there with a 35,000 image database that has built it into a catalog, and doesn't have difficulties like this, let me know, and I'll chalk it up to some issue with my hardware or software configuration.

I'll try one more time by surgically removing it (registry entries, catalogs and all) and try one re-install and a re-import. But I'm not optimistic. If a miracle happens, I'll post on this thread.

DJB

[afx]

If there's anyone out there with a 35,000 image database that has built it into a catalog, and doesn't have difficulties like this, let me know, and I'll chalk it up to some issue with my hardware or software configuration.

85K images on my image drive. My last import worked with one restart due to a crash in preview generation.

I'll try one more time by surgically removing it (registry entries, catalogs and all) and try one re-install and a re-import. But I'm not optimistic.

No need to mess around in the registry. The only thing worth nuking are your user folder and the DB.

One other thing yo might try is importing by subtree.

cheers
afx

[marbly]

However, as to ASP, I started the exercise of re-building all my previews, left the PC on overnight, and awoke to find the program had crashed about 2/3 of the way through the process. Re-started, and ASP finished. Closed ASP, re-started, began to page down through the thumbnail view of my personal catalog, and watched as the program continued to "import>' I completed the import process over a week ago. The continuing "import" process starts every time scroll down a couple of pages in thumbnail view, and the program crashes 50% of the time, even when I leave it alone to finish its (new?) "import" process.

I hope you will submit a bug report at the following URL so there is a chance it will get fixed. It is easy to do. I have already submitted about 8-10. Unfortunately, I didn't keep a log of what I submitted.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ASPFeedback

[dburton]

If there's anyone out there with a 35,000 image database that has built it into a catalog, and doesn't have difficulties like this, let me know, and I'll chalk it up to some issue with my hardware or software configuration.

85K images on my image drive. My last import worked with one restart due to a crash in preview generation.

I'll try one more time by surgically removing it (registry entries, catalogs and all) and try one re-install and a re-import. But I'm not optimistic.

No need to mess around in the registry. The only thing worth nuking are your user folder and the DB.

One other thing yo might try is importing by subtree.

cheers
afx

After having pulled my last inch of patience and carrying out the uninstall/reinstall routine, I took your suggestions of importing by subtree (not the bottom level, just the major groupings of years with the subfolders option checked. It took 1/2 day, but I left it alone during import, and so far the program has not crashed during fairly rapid scrolling through the thumbnail view.

Thanks, asf, for your coaching. I guess the program didn't like trying to catch up on building the thumbnails from the first apparently interrupted import.

So now I'm going to return to testing the program in some day-to-day experiments with some of my personal images (my commercial work is still only handled in Lightroom for now).

DJB

[komtur]

I hope the new ASP will be available soon (without rushing it out with lots of unfixed bugs) so that I can continue evaluating it along with the new LR 4.

Last theree days I have been trying LR4. Everything works fine in LR4. This is so very different from the ASP... I hope the new ASP will be available soon, too.
And the new LR4 price is very tempting.

[pesto126]

I purchased it as well.. for the price - it was worth it. While I like the ASP layout a bit better in terms of its thumbnails, etc... the control layout in LR is so much more elegant - you just follow the controls down the list and off you go. I'm getting used to the brush adjustment tools as well though I see how the layers tools in ASP are useful too... interesting for sure!

[marbly]

Last theree days I have been trying LR4. Everything works fine in LR4. This is so very different from the ASP... I hope the new ASP will be available soon, too.
And the new LR4 price is very tempting.

+1

[marbly]

I purchased it as well.. for the price - it was worth it. While I like the ASP layout a bit better in terms of its thumbnails, etc... the control layout in LR is so much more elegant - you just follow the controls down the list and off you go. I'm getting used to the brush adjustment tools as well though I see how the layers tools in ASP are useful too... interesting for sure!

The ASP layers and ability to use file system mode when you want are only cool features if the program works. ASP 1 doesn't work so all the cool features in the world are useless and meaningless, IMHO. Hope Corel gets ASP up to release quality soon.