Why can't I Clone outside the original image? [solved]

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Why can't I Clone outside the original image? [solved]

Postby Tadjio on Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:27 pm

If I use Straighten and then Crop, I often get a little corner remnant from outside the original image.
Why can't I Clone into this area?
I can with PSP.

EDIT: Solved using zPerspector "Mirror" as suggested by Ogrizzo
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby kaymann on Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:32 pm

Screen shot to see your results?
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby afx on Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:06 pm

Tadjio wrote:If I use Straighten and then Crop, I often get a little corner remnant from outside the original image.
Why can't I Clone into this area?
I can with PSP.

Because AS is not a pixel editor...

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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby Tadjio on Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:10 pm

kaymann wrote:Screen shot to see your results?

Your wish is my command...
Clone Image1.jpg
Sample image Rotated and Cropped

All I would like to do in this sample image that I have Rotated and Cropped is to Clone the sky into the top right-hand corner.
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby ogrizzo on Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:48 am

Tadjio wrote:All I would like to do in this sample image that I have Rotated and Cropped is to Clone the sky into the top right-hand corner.
A piece of cake with PSP!


Just use zPerspector to rotate and select 'Mirror'
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby Tadjio on Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:32 pm

ogrizzo wrote:
Tadjio wrote:All I would like to do in this sample image that I have Rotated and Cropped is to Clone the sky into the top right-hand corner.
A piece of cake with PSP!
Just use zPerspector to rotate and select 'Mirror'

Thanks, Ogrizzo! I had never tried "Mirror" before and it works a treat - very easy indeed.
Mirror Image1.jpg
Rotated Image in zPerspector

Mirror Image2.jpg
Mirror applied in zPerspector

Mirror Image.jpg
"Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges"?

Just one question - what is the purpose of the "Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges"?

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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby kaymann on Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:23 pm

Tadjio wrote:
ogrizzo wrote:
Tadjio wrote:Just one question - what is the purpose of the "Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges"?

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The highest offset you can go to is 99. The offset is the area where the mirror starts its transition and it appears the higher the offset the smoother the "line" where the mirror begins. In you example a nice low offset is very appropriate in others not so much.
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image?

Postby Tadjio on Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:32 pm

kayman wrote:
Tadjio wrote:Just one question - what is the purpose of the "Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges"?

The highest offset you can go to is 99. The offset is the area where the mirror starts its transition and it appears the higher the offset the smoother the "line" where the mirror begins. In you example a nice low offset is very appropriate in others not so much.

Thanks. Presumably that is measured into the image from the edge. With a 4000 pixel image it can't make much difference.
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Re: Why can't I Clone outside the original image? [solved]

Postby tintin on Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:22 pm

Tadjio wrote:Just one question - what is the purpose of the "Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges"?

the "Pixel Offset for Mirroring Edges" is the offset in pixels to start the mirroring effect from the edge inside the image. this option is needed for perspective corrected images. if the mirroring is enabled with offset zero you'll see some artifacts on the edges. the 3 as default is just the value that I found as a 'best practice' value. but it might be increased to adjust the mirroring line(s).

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